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Socoder -> Off Topic -> Intellibugs

Wed, 03 Jan 2018, 07:02
Pakz
Solution to Intel processors bug wil cause computers to be up to 30 % slower is rumored.
Wed, 03 Jan 2018, 07:02
Jayenkai
Windows?
Wed, 03 Jan 2018, 07:19
Pakz
It is the chip that has a bug. I read about linux being hit also.
Wed, 03 Jan 2018, 07:32
Pakz
Here a article about it. The patch wil be released this month.

https://it.slashdot.org/story/18/01/02/221254/kernel-memory-leaking-intel-processor-design-flaw-forces-linux-windows-redesign
Wed, 03 Jan 2018, 08:42
GfK
Typical that older processors seem to be going to get the maximum 30% punishment. Seizing the opportunity to "encourage" people to upgrade.
Wed, 03 Jan 2018, 09:30
rockford
Sounds like M$ has been watching Apple...
Wed, 03 Jan 2018, 10:12
steve_ancell
I wouldn't be surprised if they're in cahoots with CrApple.
Wed, 03 Jan 2018, 10:21
Jayenkai
This is a security issue, not a "screw everyone's processor speed for money" one.

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Wed, 03 Jan 2018, 10:22
rockford
That's what they say...

Apple denied slowdown was for nefarious reasons too. A "simple" security bug doe not equate to a 30% reduction in speed/power.


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I bet AMD are clapping their hands.
Wed, 03 Jan 2018, 11:14
Dabz
For me, if you have a CPU that is affected, then, depending, you should be able to ask for a replacement... 5% slowdown after the patch? Mmmmmm I'd let that go... 30%, defo not, I'd want a new one!

Dabz

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Wed, 03 Jan 2018, 11:44
Pakz
The reports might be overexagurated acording to toms hardware.

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/intel-bug-performance-loss-windows,36208.html

Still, every intel processor since the pentium 1 again has a problem. From what I have understood today is the future performance hit is mostly when the cpu is working with the drives swapping data around. Something about the registers needing to be continuously swapped.

There have been patches already on linux and those test windows and there were/are no real reports of dramatic slowdowns.

Intel most likely would have advertised a 40% speed increase vs previous gen. when they fixed the bug on the hardware level.

Btw. In the news also is Via, who are to return with new competitive cpu's.
Wed, 03 Jan 2018, 13:28
HoboBen
People's desktops at home, the slowdown isn't going to be noticeable in typical workloads. So that's the good news.

Virtual machine servers hosting websites though? They're the worst case for this and we'll see them get hit bad

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Wed, 03 Jan 2018, 14:17
rockford
My work uses virtual machine servers; they're as slow as a dead snail travelling through frozen treacle. If it gets 30% worse we're in real deep shit.

Whoever commisioned it in the first place was a real dumb fuck. It's never been fit for purpose.
Thu, 04 Jan 2018, 01:40
GfK
BBC has picked up the story, makes no mention of performance cuts https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-42561169
Sat, 06 Jan 2018, 14:21
HoboBen
Look at that graph!!!

https://www.epicgames.com/fortnite/forums/news/announcements/132642-epic-services-stability-update

It's servers, databases, virtual machines, etc. that are really taking the hit.

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Sat, 06 Jan 2018, 14:42
Jayenkai
Last night's ITV news was horrifying.
They picked up on "Apple announces bug will hit their phones." and ran with it.
Made little or no mention that this'll be hitting EVERYONE, no matter the device or phone.
I know for a fact that there were Android users watching that, laughing at Apple users, who'll vow never to update their 3-gen old OS..
It was shocking to see it being pointed directly at Apple, and the lack of scare tactics is going to stop people from updating their devices, from what is a frighteningly large bug.

I shouldn’t need to say it here, but if you see the updates appear, don’t ignore them, and do your best to update friends and family's systems, too.

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