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 Posted : Saturday, 19 February 2011, 00:24 | Permalink | Mark Here |
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| Posted : Saturday, 19 February 2011, 07:18 | Permalink | Mark Here |
steve_ancell
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Afr0  Yesterday I saw 'I, Robot' with Will Smith.
Anyone else seen it?
It poses a very legible question... once a computer stops being a computer and becomes something... more, is it ok to kill it?
Yep, seen it!. Lost count of how many times over the years.
OK to kill it?: Probably, until it's outlawed!. You don't get poked inside for stamping on a snail, do you! |
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| Posted : Saturday, 19 February 2011, 11:05 | Permalink | Mark Here |
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. . . could comprehend and answer complex problems in real-time, what would a 10-million dollar computer be able to do?
The partial answer to this is in the movie '2001 A Space Oddessy'. At least that's the direction that men like to go with computers. A complete simulated or artificial consciousness.
It seems we have approached a point in computers where computing power isn't a limit, but coming up with the code to manage it is. Perhaps computers will be able to begin solving problems of various complexities at that point
Your last postulate is the reason why IBM won the contest.
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| Posted : Monday, 21 February 2011, 09:15 | Permalink | Mark Here |
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I've seen "I, Robot" as well. It was an ok movie.
I think that if a computer has the ability to reason, then it must pay the consequences for its actions.
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| Posted : Tuesday, 22 February 2011, 06:30 | Permalink | Mark Here |
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Until this 'watson' says 'Screw it, i'd rather be doing something else..' I don't think this is an AI, just one big sorting routine.
Call me muxed but, big fucking deal.
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| Posted : Tuesday, 22 February 2011, 06:41 | Permalink | Mark Here |
Afr0
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| Posted : Wednesday, 23 February 2011, 02:46 | Permalink | Mark Here |
steve_ancell
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Afr0 How do you know it doesn't simply happen to like 'Jeopardy'?
Computers don't like or dislike anything, they just do as they are told. If that was a child, it would be every parents dream!.  | |
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| Posted : Wednesday, 23 February 2011, 11:36 | Permalink | Mark Here |
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Computers don't like or dislike anything, they just do as they are told. If that was a child, it would be every parents dream!
This is a very interesting problem. On one hand, you're right that computers don't have emotions. On the other hand, humans only have emotions because of a very complex thought process. Really--we are no different than Watson. We're both machines (we're far more sophisticated however).
It's not crazy to think computers will someday surpass us in thinking. It will be the dawn of a new age where we build machines assist us in thinking.
Silicon and cells aren't the same thing, but from a scientific standpoint theres no reason we can't replicate what nature has done.
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"Some people see things as they are and say why? I dream things that never were and say why not?" - Robert Kennedy | |
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| Posted : Wednesday, 23 February 2011, 12:47 | Permalink | Mark Here |
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Maybe, but I don't think it's going to happen during my lifetime. | |
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| Posted : Wednesday, 23 February 2011, 12:51 | Permalink | Mark Here |
steve_ancell
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I just had a scary thought...
What if robots do develop emotions in the future. Can you imagine a robotic kid throwing a temper tantrum?, it could rip your arms and legs off or use your car as a skateboard or something. Even worse, can you imagine a Cyber-Emo or iEmo?.
I might have to copyright or trademark iEmo, if Blow Jobs hasn't already!  | |
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| Posted : Wednesday, 23 February 2011, 13:07 | Permalink | Mark Here |
Stealth
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What if robots do develop emotions in the future. Can you imagine a robotic kid throwing a temper tantrum?, it could rip your arms and legs off or use your car as a skateboard or something. Even worse, can you imagine a Cyber-Emo or iEmo?.
We probably wont have a need to build human-like robots except for experimenting. Nature did a pretty amazing job, but it was all based on survival of the fittest. We evolved to have temper tantrums to survive. Robots thankfully will be developed by very smart people instead of natural selection. Robots wont be built around the model of having a number one goal to survive like mammals are.
What's really scary is when scientists start trying to build more complex genetic code. Since humans are wired for survival, bad genetics could unleash hell.
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Andrew // stealth
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| Posted : Wednesday, 23 February 2011, 13:57 | Permalink | Mark Here |
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Stealth We probably wont have a need to build human-like robots except for experimenting.
This is precisely why we do need to build human like computers. Over the last 200 years there has been abundant amounts of human experimentation on both body and mind (and I mean in normal civilized hospitals as well as horrific places like Auschwitz and Unit 731).
Obviously human experimentation is wrong and should not be performed; but the sad fact is that in many cases it has helped to push forward our scientific knowledge. Being able to simulate both body and mind would allow us to perform experiments which we shouldn't perform on humans; allowing us to learn more about conditions and come up with treatments for them.
For example if you could simulate a depressed mind then you could attempt to 'treat' it using any procedure you wished (regardless of how inhuman it could be).
Although if we are able to fully simulate a fully functional human mind in a machine, then how would experimenting on the machine be any more ethical then experimenting on a human mind?
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| Posted : Wednesday, 23 February 2011, 14:03 | Permalink | Mark Here |
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"Let's build a homocidally insane robot, then see if we can teach it not to kill us!! "
Hmm.. I think there may be a flaw in DD's logic, but I'm damned if I can find it!! Get to work, coders!
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| Posted : Wednesday, 23 February 2011, 14:35 | Permalink | Mark Here |
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I think the obvious problem, DD, is that we seem to need human experimentation to figure out how to make a bot that simulates the human mind. Once we've made the bot, we can do whatever we want with it, but I'm not sure I see that coming any time soon. | |
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| Posted : Wednesday, 23 February 2011, 15:40 | Permalink | Mark Here |
Stealth
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We're going to reach a point where we max out our capacity to think, but we'll build computers to reach the next level and solve even more complex problems. Machines can look a huge sets of data and keep track of extremely precise details. Computers will be able to find relationships between data that we never even imagined.
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Andrew // stealth
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| Posted : Wednesday, 23 February 2011, 16:50 | Permalink | Mark Here |
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We all just have to hope that no terrorist learn how to make intelligent bots, those lot would probably try to make a human-like terminator. | |
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| Posted : Wednesday, 23 February 2011, 17:40 | Permalink | Mark Here |
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We all just have to hope that no terrorist learn how to make intelligent bots, those lot would probably try to make a human-like terminator.
They are fucking morons who only know how to blow themselves up, so I wouldn't worry about that. 
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| Posted : Wednesday, 23 February 2011, 19:45 | Permalink | Mark Here |
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LOL | |
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