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Posted : Friday, 10 February 2012, 20:26 | Permalink
shroom_monk


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Is it just me or has the whole site’s width got squashed in?

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Keep It Simple, Shroom!
Posted : Friday, 10 February 2012, 20:26 | Permalink
Jayenkai


WW Entries : 106
Jay still needs to get around to fixing that...
Chrome's now decided that "Width:Auto" should be "Use as little as possible" as opposed to the old "Use it all, why the hell would you not use it all!?" ..
Firefox did this a while back, and I was too lazy to fix it.
Guess I have to now..

Fuckin stupid "Auto"..
What prat decided on this new thing.
FFS..

!Spoiler!

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Posted : Sunday, 12 February 2012, 08:05 | Permalink
Jayenkai


WW Entries : 106
Right, I've ended up with a min-width:80%
It's not 100% right, and you'll probably spot the right hand side being a teensy bit off, in places, but it'll do for now.

If you want a spot where it'll ALWAYS happen, click the "Quick Post" link..

Because the "Layout_Main" div is absolute (because apparently that's "better") I can't set it to Width:100%, because then it's too bloody wide.
Meanwhile, auto doesn't have the desired effect, because now they've changed it from being "That useful thing that uses all the space up" to being "this may as well not have a width set at all, because that's what it's now doing"

Fucking CSS..
Bollocks!!!



One day I'll learn all this shit.
Meanwhile, if I ever do a complete and total redo of the site, I'M USING FUCKING TABLES!!!


Anyhoo, min-width:80% works kinda. it looks marginally better, anyway.
Couldn't specify a width due to the multitudes of themes and those alternative layouts that nobody bothers with.
Gah..

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Posted : Sunday, 12 February 2012, 09:34 | Permalink
shroom_monk


WW Entries : 8
Jayenkai I'M USING FUCKING TABLES!!!

I was making something web-based for a school project last week and getting CSS to lay out the page how I wanted was an absolute nightmare. The number of times I thought 'this would all be so much easier if I just used tables' was too high to count.

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Posted : Tuesday, 14 February 2012, 00:12 | Permalink
Evil Roy Ferguson


WW Entries : 3
I do not ultimately condone its sentiment, but it seems relevant to the current scenario:

giveupandusetables.com/
Posted : Tuesday, 14 February 2012, 02:05 | Permalink
Afr0


WW Entries : 3
Should you use tables for layout?

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Posted : Tuesday, 14 February 2012, 10:44 | Permalink
Stealth


People figured out a long time ago how to do sites without tables. You just have to look up the code. Trying to hack it yourself is just going to frustrate you if you don't know how to do it.

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Posted : Tuesday, 14 February 2012, 11:57 | Permalink
JL235


WW Entries : 7
I build things pretty quickly using divs and CSS. Using tables would probably slow me down, not speed me up.

CSS IS quirky, and it's layouts are unexpected. Once your in the CSS mindset, you do start to know how things need to be laid out and styled in order to get the effect you want.

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Posted : Tuesday, 14 February 2012, 15:01 | Permalink
Jayenkai


WW Entries : 106
Hi
I'm Jayenkai..
I write games in Blitz, I still occasionally use MODs for Music, I use an 11 year old copy of Paintshop Pro for my sprites, and damnit to hell I'm using tables...

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Posted : Tuesday, 14 February 2012, 15:56 | Permalink
Stealth


Nobody will really notice. It just makes your code a tad messier.

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Posted : Tuesday, 14 February 2012, 16:10 | Permalink
JL235


WW Entries : 7
People will notice, because it'll render in an odd way. Tables don't get rendered until all HTML has been parsed.

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Posted : Tuesday, 14 February 2012, 16:40 | Permalink
Jayenkai


WW Entries : 106
Before your head explodes in a torrent of disgust, I'd just like to point out the oddness of you expecting me to have any sort of time to completely rewrite the entirety of this site!

... Just sayin'!

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Posted : Tuesday, 14 February 2012, 17:08 | Permalink
CodersRule


We're still able to write themes for the site, aren't we? Is your <sarcasm>super-advanced</sarcasm> theming system able to cope with decent HTML?
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Posted : Tuesday, 14 February 2012, 17:33 | Permalink
JL235


WW Entries : 7
Personally I would prefer that the default theme was nicer, with less customization for special events, then the ability to build custom themes.

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