Right, I've ended up with a min-width:80% It's not 100% right, and you'll probably spot the right hand side being a teensy bit off, in places, but it'll do for now. If you want a spot where it'll ALWAYS happen, click the "Quick Post" link.. Because the "Layout_Main" div is absolute (because apparently that's "better") I can't set it to Width:100%, because then it's too bloody wide. Meanwhile, auto doesn't have the desired effect, because now they've changed it from being "That useful thing that uses all the space up" to being "this may as well not have a width set at all, because that's what it's now doing" Fucking CSS.. Bollocks!!! One day I'll learn all this shit. Meanwhile, if I ever do a complete and total redo of the site, I'M USING FUCKING TABLES!!! Anyhoo, min-width:80% works kinda. it looks marginally better, anyway. Couldn't specify a width due to the multitudes of themes and those alternative layouts that nobody bothers with. Gah.. This post is from -- http://socoder.net/index.php?topic=2766