Creating ''Graphics'' Slow

-=+=- -=+=- -=+=- -=+=- -=+=- -=+=- -=+=- -=+=- -=+=- -=+=- -=+=- -=+=- -=+=- -=+=- -=+=- -=+=- -=+=- -=+=- -=+=- -=+=- -=+=- -=+=- -=+=- -=+=- -=+=- -=+=- -=+=- -=+=- -=+=- -=+=- (c) WidthPadding Industries 1987 0\|707\|0 -=+=- -=+=- -=+=- -=+=- -=+=- -=+=- -=+=- -=+=- -=+=- -=+=- -=+=- -=+=- -=+=- -=+=- -=+=- -=+=- -=+=- -=+=- -=+=- -=+=- -=+=- -=+=- -=+=- -=+=- -=+=- -=+=- -=+=- -=+=- -=+=- -=+=-
Socoder -> Blitz Max -> Creating ''Graphics'' Slow
Fri, 26 Jul 2019, 22:21
therevillsgames	Creating ''Graphics'' Slow I know you guys have moved on from BlitzMax, but I've been noticing that creating graphics on vanilla BlitzMax is pretty slow these days, maybe it's a Windows 10 thing or a driver thing but on my PC it now takes over 3 seconds to create 1920x1080: Building untitled1 Compiling:untitled1.bmx flat assembler version 1.69.14 (1048560 kilobytes memory) 3 passes, 3067 bytes. Linking:untitled1.exe Executing:untitled1.exe Creating graphics 1920 x 1080 with depth 32 at 60hz Time taken = 3095 Process complete --v The code is super simple: SuperStrict Local startMs:Int = MilliSecs() Local width:Int = DesktopWidth() Local height:Int = DesktopHeight() Local depth:Int = 32 Local hertz:Int = 60 Print "Creating graphics " + width + " x " + height + " with depth " + depth + " at " + hertz + "hz" Graphics(width, height, depth, hertz) Local endMs:Int = MilliSecs() Print "Time taken = " + (endMs - startMs) --v Any ideas why its so slow these days?
Sat, 27 Jul 2019, 07:55
Dan	hmm,. this is here: Building untitled1 Compiling:untitled1.bmx flat assembler version 1.69.14 (1572863 kilobytes memory) 3 passes, 3034 bytes. Linking:untitled1.exe Executing:untitled1.exe Creating graphics 1786 x 1004 with depth 32 at 60hz Time taken = 9275 Process complete --v
Sat, 27 Jul 2019, 12:16
Jayenkai	Building untitled1 Compiling:untitled1.bmx flat assembler version 1.69.14 (1572863 kilobytes memory) 3 passes, 3034 bytes. Linking:untitled1.exe Executing:untitled1.exe Creating graphics 1920 x 1080 with depth 32 at 60hz Time taken = 115 Process complete --v I'm on Win10, too, so .. Driver issue, I reckon. FWIW : GFX = Intel Onboard Bollocks. -=-=- ''Load, Next List!''
Sat, 27 Jul 2019, 18:11
therevillsgames	Hmmm, I'm using a not so shitty Nvidia GTX 1080... Dan's results are even worse, must be because of a multi monitor setup(?).
Sat, 27 Jul 2019, 18:37
therevillsgames	I've expanded the test so it uses different drivers: SuperStrict Import srs.D3D11Max2D Global width:Int = DesktopWidth() Global height:Int = DesktopHeight() Global depth:Int = 32 Global hertz:Int = 60 CreateGraphics(0) CreateGraphics(1) CreateGraphics(2) CreateGraphics(3) Function CreateGraphics(driver:Int) Local driverString:String Select driver Case 0 SetGraphicsDriver GLMax2DDriver() driverString = "GLMax2DDriver" Case 1 SetGraphicsDriver D3D7Max2DDriver() driverString = "D3D7Max2DDriver" Case 2 SetGraphicsDriver D3D9Max2DDriver() driverString = "D3D9Max2DDriver" Case 3 SetGraphicsDriver D3D11Max2DDriver() driverString = "D3D11Max2DDriver" End Select Print "Creating graphics " + width + " x " + height + " with depth " + depth + " at " + hertz + "hz with " + driverString Local startMs:Int = MilliSecs() Graphics(width, height, depth, hertz) Local endMs:Int = MilliSecs() Print "Time taken = " + (endMs - startMs) Print "-------------" EndGraphics() End Function End --v On my PC OpenGL and DX11 are fine: Creating graphics 1920 x 1080 with depth 32 at 60hz with GLMax2DDriver Time taken = 410 ------------- Creating graphics 1920 x 1080 with depth 32 at 60hz with D3D7Max2DDriver Time taken = 3085 ------------- Creating graphics 1920 x 1080 with depth 32 at 60hz with D3D9Max2DDriver Time taken = 3105 ------------- Creating graphics 1920 x 1080 with depth 32 at 60hz with D3D11Max2DDriver Time taken = 398 ------------- --v
Sat, 27 Jul 2019, 18:39
Jayenkai	Also, don't forget the alternative graphics drivers, too.. SuperStrict Local startMs:Int = MilliSecs() Local width:Int = DesktopWidth() Local height:Int = DesktopHeight() Local depth:Int = 32 Local hertz:Int = 60 ' Uncomment to try each one SetGraphicsDriver GLGraphicsDriver() 'SetGraphicsDriver GLMax2DDriver() 'SetGraphicsDriver D3D7Max2DDriver() 'SetGraphicsDriver D3D9Max2DDriver() Print 'Creating graphics ' + width + ' x ' + height + ' with depth ' + depth + ' at ' + hertz + 'hz' Graphics(width, height, depth, hertz) Local endMs:Int = MilliSecs() Print 'Time taken = ' + (endMs - startMs) --v \|update\| -=-=- \|update\| LOL, yeah, that -=-=- ''Load, Next List!''
Sat, 27 Jul 2019, 18:42
Jayenkai	Oooh, now then.. The fact that mine does 7 and 9, and yours does 9 and 11.. That might be telling... Current BMax version = 1.50 -=-=- ''Load, Next List!''
Sat, 27 Jul 2019, 19:21
therevillsgames	Sorry Jay, what are your results with the different drivers?
Sat, 27 Jul 2019, 20:07
Jayenkai	I honestly didn't want to post them, for fear of your screaming insanely at the screen!! > Reveal 🔎 Building untitled1 Compiling:untitled1.bmx flat assembler version 1.69.14 (1572863 kilobytes memory) 3 passes, 4485 bytes. Linking:untitled1.exe Executing:untitled1.exe Creating graphics 1920 x 1080 with depth 32 at 60hz with GLMax2DDriver Time taken = 105 ------------- Creating graphics 1920 x 1080 with depth 32 at 60hz with D3D7Max2DDriver Time taken = 108 ------------- Creating graphics 1920 x 1080 with depth 32 at 60hz with D3D9Max2DDriver Time taken = 113 ------------- Creating graphics 1920 x 1080 with depth 32 at 60hz with GLGraphicsDriver (DX11 doesn't work in my copy of BMax!) Time taken = 76 ------------- Process complete --v -=-=- ''Load, Next List!''
Sun, 28 Jul 2019, 02:20
Dan	Dan's results are even worse, must be because of a multi monitor setup(?). Oh yeah, 2 monitors here.
Mon, 29 Jul 2019, 04:21
therevillsgames	@Jay - I need to upgrade my GPU!
Mon, 29 Jul 2019, 04:30
Jayenkai	Does your driver have those "Per App Setting" settings? Perhaps the driver is trying to figure out what the app is, before initialising things.. Compile once, head into settings and specify the app, then try running again and see if it's any quicker.. -=-=- ''Load, Next List!''
Sun, 18 Aug 2019, 00:14
therevillsgames	Hmmm, I've noticed that it has improved heaps recently: Executing:fullscreen_slow.exe Creating graphics 1920 x 1080 with depth 32 at 60hz with GLMax2DDriver Time taken = 486 ------------- Creating graphics 1920 x 1080 with depth 32 at 60hz with D3D7Max2DDriver Time taken = 93 ------------- Creating graphics 1920 x 1080 with depth 32 at 60hz with D3D9Max2DDriver Time taken = 129 ------------- Creating graphics 1920 x 1080 with depth 32 at 60hz with D3D11Max2DDriver Time taken = 104 ------------- Process complete --v I didnt do anything!?!? Maybe all those Windows 10 updates??
Sun, 18 Aug 2019, 03:45
Jayenkai	Well, at least they're good for something!!