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Socoder -> Off Topic -> Energy bills :(

Posted : Friday, 29 July 2022, 04:11
AndyH

Energy bills :(


Octopus have a tool now that shows the cost of your predicted usage v your DD payments and that shows I'm paying enough for the next 12 months ... IF ... the standing/unit charges stayed the same.

They also have a crystal ball toggle that adjusts the costs based on what they predict the price cap increases will go up to.

This is scarry. It predicts I'll be £1700± short if I keep paying the same amount each month. In order to just break even I would have to pay another £100 a month, this is on top of already paying £100 per month more than this time last year.

Mental.

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Posted : Friday, 29 July 2022, 04:22
Jayenkai
God damnit..
We're like, super minimalist, as far as plugged in things go, and I'm forever over-analysing everything we use.
..Plus there's only me and Mum here, so I expect that helps a lot.. There's not half a dozen TVs, Computers, etc, lit up all day.

I'm paying £50 a month, and that's just about paying it.
From the £32 p/m average last year, to a £52 p/m average currently.

There's no crystal ball on SSE's website. And in fact we recently got a letter telling us we're being moved over to OVO Energy, instead, so god only knows how much that'll screw things up.


It's the Gas that really scares the crap out of me.
Last June was £4.16. This June was £8.86
January was £63.46, pre-hike.. so if you double that, and then add on the next price hike, too..
Holy fucknuts..

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Posted : Friday, 29 July 2022, 04:34
AndyH
It was the electricity that had the huge hikes last time, because they know they'll get more over the summer months. It does look like it will the gas that gets the big hike in prices next and that is what I think makes up most of the increase in the prediction if gave me. Our house is 100 years old and cold despite all the insulation that is appropriate.

While I'm working I can manage to pay this, but how do they expect everyone to be able to meet these new costs?

I wish I had the crystal ball back in February, or even April, and signed up to the fix rate deal they were offering at that time - they seemed way over priced at that time but then the new fixed deals today are basically saying "Hold my beer..."

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Posted : Friday, 29 July 2022, 09:09
rockford
And Centrica (British Gas owners) and Shell et all are still raking in billions. Something immoral somewhere...



More people are going to get physically and mentall unwell and die this Winter than ever before.
Posted : Friday, 29 July 2022, 10:01
Pakz
I'm using a ipad also for the electricity costs. 120watts laptop vs 15watts tablet.

Getting a energy efficient refrigerator or freezer has never been that urgent and logical.

Imagine having a next year gaming rig with nvidia 4090 that requires a 1000 watt power supply.
Posted : Friday, 29 July 2022, 11:13
Jayenkai
Scary watching things like Linus Tech Tips, and seeing the alarming amount of power they use.
They're all ecstatic that the GPUs are getting back to normal prices, but.. they're not.. because the price you pay is now only about 1/10th the price you end up paying for it.
Buyer beware!

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Posted : Tuesday, 02 August 2022, 08:01
Pakz
I just read about a older student that went from 90 a month to 470 a month in energy costs in her new contract. Electricity and gas is 8x the previous price atm.
One other story was about a sick person who is on a oxygen support device the whole day. And can not afford the electricity bill anymore.
Companies are also continuing their debt collection as usual. No remorse.
Posted : Tuesday, 02 August 2022, 14:16
rockford
It's sickening that yet another energy company is boasting of huuuuuuuuuuuuuuge profits - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-62382624
Posted : Tuesday, 02 August 2022, 14:27
Jayenkai
They're all so happy.
\O/yeay\o/

Bastards
Posted : Tuesday, 02 August 2022, 22:09
Krakatomato
We're with Octopus and currently paying £341/month. Crystal ball reckons we need to be paying around £450/month to break even. Absolutely crazy
Posted : Tuesday, 02 August 2022, 22:20
Brice
Our house was built in 1910. Given the triple digit temps we have had, and had to tolerate with no A/C, we have managed thanks to the lack of humidity in the area. Our bill has been around $125. And that includes the pump on the hot tub running when it needs to, as well as ceiling fans and other fans. I can't imagine what it would be back in Tennessee with the heat and humidity and the necessity of air conditioning.

We make out good in the winter as we have a gas wall heater that heats the whole house and does a good job. Our electric stays near the same all year around from what Zoe says. We are blessed.
Posted : Thursday, 04 August 2022, 16:55
rychan
Currently, Leccy bill is ~£40 a month, Gas is £10- £20 a month, I shop at Aldi to get the best prices and can get by on £10-£20 a week for food and bits quite nicely

£20 a week bus fare
£10 a week for the train, when they're not on bloody strike again...

Saved £15 a month on mobile contracts last month, which is nice, got more data at the same time, so I could add my son on a lil plan for him.

Am I doing something massively different to everyone else here?

Mainly using my laptop to code in the evenings, play some games on the PS4, although I have just set up Retro Pie on my PiZzero 2W for less energy stuff and nicer access to a bunch of delcious retro bits.

Can understand the air conditioning thing from this summer mind, ended up falling asleep with the fan on a couple nights ago. What is this mystical A/C ? JK JK, If I feel the need for air con I can always head over to the local gym

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Posted : Friday, 05 August 2022, 02:56
Jayenkai
I recently bought a couple of little USB desk "humidifier" fans that you can pour water into. 5v, cheap to run, does the job!
They might be "for a desk", but the one in the living room is more than capable of cooling down the whole room.
Linkage, but unavailable... Wonder why!?! There's loads of alternatives available, but I bought these 'cos they're USB and we've got WAY more USB sockets around than we do plug sockets!!!

My mobile costs have shot up, drastically, literally since the week that Brexit happened.
I'm on Three, Pay as you Go, and it used to be 1p/minute, 2p/text, 3p/Mb data.
It rocketed up to 10p/min, 10p/text and 5p/Mb, then in July they jumped AGAIN, to 35p/min, 15p/text, 10p/Mb!
Shockingly bad..
Really, alarmingly shocking..

I'm glad that the only time I use my phone is when I'm stuck in a hospital bed!
It's definitely not enough use to warrant a contract, but next time I'm in there, I might seriously have to consider it.
Their actual contract/data plans are ironically some of the better deals that I've seen.
Not sure why PAYG customers are getting as screwed as they are.. Gotta make up the cash somewhere, I suppose.

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Posted : Friday, 05 August 2022, 11:08
rychan
Might be worth phoning them up to see what they can give you on some only Jay, triston is on a £8 a month unlimited texts and phonecalls with 6gig of data on vodaphone

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Posted : Friday, 05 August 2022, 11:24
AndyH
I have moved from three to smarty, who are also three lol. But paying half the price at £10 per month for bags of data and all the calls/text you can eat.

Have my family on here now, get £1 off per additional person on the plan.

I've not found any payg deals that were suitable for us. Been a long time since I had a payg and it used to be so much better value.

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Posted : Friday, 05 August 2022, 13:12
Jayenkai
When I bring up how little I pay for my phone, everyone always jumps to the same conclusion.
"You can get a cheap contract!"

No, not this cheap, you can't!!
I last topped my phone up around about early 2020 some time.
I put £10 on it.
The balance is currently £0.36p

That's £10 for about 24 months or so.

If, by some amazing stroke of luck, I somehow managed to get unlimited everything for only £5p/m, that's still £120... £110 more than I paid for the past 2 years..
And it'd still be just sitting here, doing nothing more than the occasional texts to mum when she's out.. which, incidentally, are done over Apple Messages so count as data not txt, and since the phone's connected to the Wi-Fi, cost 0p...

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Posted : Saturday, 06 August 2022, 01:59
rychan
Cool
Posted : Saturday, 06 August 2022, 03:07
AndyH
I'd love to be able to do that, but as I said I couldn't find any payg that works for us.

It's mostly data that's the killer, because we're out a lot and the unit prices keep going up, so a monthly contract works better in our case.

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Posted : Saturday, 06 August 2022, 03:12
Jayenkai
Yeah, I think I'm a fairly unique circumstance

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Posted : Saturday, 06 August 2022, 03:13
Pakz
There's some spots with free 'guest' wifi around town here. When I go water the plants at the cemetery. A clinic nearby has a access spot. But this is for light use. I tried to download a music instrument set a couple of months ago. That was not possible.

With the inflation right now. I expect not to get a data subscription any time soon.