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Socoder -> JSE -> Will have to make something with JSE
Mon, 09 May 2022, 07:05
AndyH	Will have to make something with JSE I'm finishing on a Vic 20 game right now but in between I fancy having a go with JSE. I've been trying out several of the examples and often play your games that you post. Can I ask :- - On the projects page I see disks A to F. Are these my own project area disks that only I see and I'm not going to cause problems if I start deleting some things from Disk A? I assume I am seeing all the programs I have opened and edited? - Should https://gotojse.com/ go away in the future is there anyway to preserve and run any of the programs I make independently? Eg: is there a runtime package I can bundle my JSE code with to play anywhere? Or better, is it possible to install an editor version so it would be possible to keep on building JSE stuff? -=-=- Andy H 8-bit games at www.hewco.uk Cartoons at awful.ovine.net Ovine at ovine.net
Mon, 09 May 2022, 07:21
Jayenkai	If you click the disk on a project, it "moves" it to a different disk. Think of these more like tags. You can put all your experimental stuff into F, complete games into E, unfinished stuff in D, or whatever, so you can easily access them again later. I could've done a proper filesystem with folders and the like, but my lazy GUI-hating self shouted at me for even considering it. "Moving" a project won't impact anything at all, it's only what's saved in your browser, and you can use the A-F's however you'd like. The pink JSE disk and black 3" Games disks will always be there. If you open a project from either of those, it becomes one of your projects on disk A. You can delete them from there, and they'll still be available from the last two disks. .. But any changes you've made will be lost.. Because you deleted "your" version. I haven't made a "compiled" edition. It's Javascript, and as easy as it "should" be to use something like Cordova to handle it, it didn't "feel" right once I did. Like there was extra slowdown, and touch-inputs weren't right.. Things like that. I keep trying different packagers. After all, it'd be nice to have Shoebox and Browsercade in the AppStore, but .. again.. nothing ever seems to handle everything perfectly. There's always one or two bugbears that bugger things up!! I should, however, work on some kind of external, offline "player" standalone edition. That'd definitely be better, especially if you wanted to upload the end result to your own server. I'll have a fiddle, and see what I can come up with. Note : DO .. DO Do Do please use the export button often. A couple of times after a MacOS update, Safari's lost all my projects, and thank fuck I had the exported code to load back in. -=-=- ''Load, Next List!''
Mon, 09 May 2022, 09:17
Jayenkai	Work on "Player" functionality has been started, and is kinda working, but is also doing things behind my back, such as "How the heck is that saving highscores if it isn't saving the project? And where's it saving them!?! I bet that's causing a problem, somewhere!!" Curious!! But it should be workable. Player - Playing NeonPlat's Festive Trees Sound Quirk : Sound won't start on most browsers until you've clicked the screen first. On GotoJSE, there's tons of places to click, so the chances of you starting a game without having clicked first is fairly minimal. But if I'm doing a player, I'll need to account for that. Maybe a "Click to start" like Browsercade.com has. Controller Quirk : I need to automate the onscreen controls, somehow, but without them popping up on a game that can actually use mouse/touch properly.. -=-=- ''Load, Next List!''
Mon, 09 May 2022, 11:33
AndyH	That's really neat! And thanks fo the explanation. -=-=- Andy H 8-bit games at www.hewco.uk Cartoons at awful.ovine.net Ovine at ovine.net
Tue, 10 May 2022, 05:21
Jayenkai	OK, I think it's all functional. Player Test and Player .zip! Should work if you upload it to your own server. Just change the code in the MyGames/xxx.js script, and bob's your JSE game! -=-=- ''Load, Next List!''
Tue, 10 May 2022, 06:34
Pakz	So how does this work? I code something in gotojse, and then copy the code into the file in the zip,above?
Tue, 10 May 2022, 06:39
Jayenkai	The readme.. > Reveal 🔎 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- JSE Player - v3gga May 10th 2022 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Basic How-To -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- 1. Code your game using GotoJSE.com 2. Copy/Edit the file MyGames/MyGame.js 3. Change the GameName value at the top of that script. 4. Copy and paste your JSE code into the script, ensuring.. You have a ` at the top You have another ` at the end And no `'s inbetween. to enclose all of your code inside the MyGameCode variable. The ` is that odd "not an apostrophe", which is usually on that key you never press, next to the 1, depending on your keyboard layout. In Javascript, this is used to enclose multi-line strings. You learned something, today! 5. If your game explicitly uses the mouse/touchscreen, place the command "DisableOnscreenControls" somewhere near the top of your code. This is to ensure the Onscreen Controls don't automagically pop up all the time! 6. Edit the player.html file, changing the 4th line to point to the game's script. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Extra Tweaks -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- 1. Images There's a MyLogo.png image. This appears right at the start, to force a click/touch from the user, so that the audio kicks into gear properly. You can change this to anything you'd like, but do keep it in, as a lot of browsers nowadays require that first click. If you want extra control over this "screen", hop down to the very bottom of player.html, and you'll see a <div id="ClickToStart"> Anything you put inside that div will (*should!) disappear once the player clicks to begin. There are also 50,000,000,000 differently sized favicon files for the many sizes of icons that Apple seems to want. Feel free to change those, so your game doesn't have the JSE icon! -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- 2. Games If you copy+paste the Player.html file, and rename it, you can then tweak each version so that it links to a different "mygames/game.js" source file. You can then store all your game code in the "mygames" folder together, and not have to worry about faffing about with much else. Could get messy if you write 100 or so games, but at least you won't have 100 copies of all the other 100-or-so other files!! -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Running Locally -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- As much as I'd like it to "just work", most browsers won't run everything from the desktop. This is due to heavy security precautions, whereby the browser doesn't like to access files from your computer without permission, so gives up trying. In the majority of cases, you should at least be able to run the games, but sound will more than likely be missing. If you'd like to attempt to run your games from your desktop properly, have a search for ways to disable "CORS" from your browser. (I haven't included a link because the browser folk seem to keep changing the methods, and by the time you've read this, anything I could've written will no doubt be outdated!) I've managed this in Firefox, which I only use for testing things, but haven't dared try it in my primary browser, because I honestly don't trust having it disabled! -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Credits -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- JSE was written by @Jayenkai, with help from Forum members at SoCoder. Michael Fernie also helped give a ton of guidance as the project was built up. Mostly developed over the course of 2021, with further tweaks and nips and tucks as time went on. JSE makes use of the following things 1. upup, by Tal Ater. A Javascript cacher, which should hopefully make things a little bit easier for your server. https://github.com/TalAter/UpUp 2. Javascript-Mod-Player, by Chen Zeyu Assumed this is useable under standard Github reuse. I emailed the guy a couple of times, but had no response. Either way, the code was HEAVILY hacked to allow for the JMTrackr functionality to work correctly, and is barely what it was. I really hope he doesn't mind what I did to his script!! https://github.com/chenzeyu/JavaScript-Mod-Player 3. ZX-Origins fonts, created by @DamienGuard https://damieng.com/typography/zx-origins/ -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- upup License The MIT License (MIT) Copyright © 2021 Tal Ater Permission is hereby granted, free of charge, to any person obtaining a copy of this software and associated documentation files (the "Software"), to deal in the Software without restriction, including without limitation the rights to use, copy, modify, merge, publish, distribute, sublicense, and/or sell copies of the Software, and to permit persons to whom the Software is furnished to do so, subject to the following conditions: The above copyright notice and this permission notice shall be included in all copies or substantial portions of the Software. THE SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED "AS IS", WITHOUT WARRANTY OF ANY KIND, EXPRESS OR IMPLIED, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO THE WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY, FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE AND NONINFRINGEMENT. IN NO EVENT SHALL THE AUTHORS OR COPYRIGHT HOLDERS BE LIABLE FOR ANY CLAIM, DAMAGES OR OTHER LIABILITY, WHETHER IN AN ACTION OF CONTRACT, TORT OR OTHERWISE, ARISING FROM, OUT OF OR IN CONNECTION WITH THE SOFTWARE OR THE USE OR OTHER DEALINGS IN THE SOFTWARE. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- JSE Player History -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- .v3gga - First release of the player. Earlier history of the JSE language itself can be found here. https://agameaweek.com/?Find=jse&Content=Tags&Type=Blog&Sort=1 or in this SoCoder thread https://socoder.net/?Topic=8135 -=-=- ''Load, Next List!''
Tue, 10 May 2022, 07:24
AndyH	Superb. I will try it out. As well as multiline it can also be used for string interpolation in the latest standards. -=-=- Andy H 8-bit games at www.hewco.uk Cartoons at awful.ovine.net Ovine at ovine.net
Wed, 11 May 2022, 04:20
Jayenkai	Testing the viability of uploading to the two big indie-game sites. 1. GameJolt : Seems to run just fine! \o/yeay\o/ 2. itch.io : Also seems fine.. Ominous big blank space in the middle of the game's description page, though!! In each case, you need to rename player.html to index.html, but other than that, once you've got it working, just zip it up and pop it onto the sites. -=-=- ''Load, Next List!''
Thu, 12 May 2022, 07:48
Jayenkai	Gawd, that took some effort.. Right, if you refresh GotoJSE.com, you should now see a new "Save and download" icon, next to the save icon at the top. Click that, and it should (*should!) build and download a zip file, containing the Player functionality and your code already bundled up. It doesn't rejig any of the favicons or anything like that. I was hoping to get "first symbol = favicon" working, but.. Bloody 'ell, that was hard enough getting that much to work!!! I might make it "better" in the future, but for now it does the important stuff! -=-=- ''Load, Next List!''
Thu, 12 May 2022, 08:06
AndyH	Nice one !

Will have to make something with JSE