I dont understand but could u help me please.

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Socoder -> Off Topic -> I dont understand but could u help me please.
Wed, 27 Jun 2007, 12:19
Hotshot	I was going to buy core 2 duo E4300 or E4400 but this abit I dont understand "ALL OF THIS HARDWARE WILL BE PREINSTALLED BY OUR MICROSOFT TRAINED ENGINEERS IN THE NEW CASE READY FOR YOU TO FIT YOUR EXISTING HARD DRIVE (IDE OR SATA) AND DVD/CD DRIVE. ALL LISTED PARTS CAN ALSO BE SENT UNASSEMBLED IF REQUESTED. ALL PARTS SUPPLIED COME WITH A 12 MONTH RETURN TO BASE WARRANTY." Does he mean that all (motherboard/graphics cards/ram/cpu) are inside the case? cheers
Wed, 27 Jun 2007, 13:05
TheMadProff	Hold on, is this a computer, or just a processor
Wed, 27 Jun 2007, 14:05
power mousey	I don't know, Hotshot. But take a look at this: hardware.slashdot.org/hardware/07/06/26/2152246.shtml serious, power mousey
Wed, 27 Jun 2007, 14:05
Forklift_Fred	It looks like you can choose to have it put together for you or you can do it yourself. Can you give us a link to what you are looking at? -=-=- Come rain or shine...
Wed, 27 Jun 2007, 15:28
JL235	There is not enough info. But look at lots of the parts, it might be a general statement given about the parts they sell and appears on everything automatically. Without seeing the page, no one can really answer.
Thu, 28 Jun 2007, 07:45
Hotshot	It was from EBAY £275 PLUS £25(I also saw £209 plus £15) but the cheapest core 2 duo E4300 system kits is £288 from online link(called https://www.advancetec.co.uk/) the ebay link is here
Thu, 28 Jun 2007, 08:18
garand	they are selling you a computer with a Intel E4300, 160gb Hdd, 20x DVD/RW, 256MB GFX, 1GB Ram.
Thu, 28 Jun 2007, 11:01
Dabz	The graphics card is an intergrated jobbie that uses shared memory (Max 128mb, the 256 bit tag has nothing to do with memory) When looking at a PC, I always look at the upgrading options. I'm not too sure about Vista Ready (as advertised), as in, the GFX cannot handle DX10, and will stumble with Aero, and for me, a real Vista Ready PC should have even the lowest end nVidia 8 Series graphics card in (Or AMD equivalent), my guess is you'll get a base score of 3-3.5 in Home Basic. If you want to put a meaty card in (It will probably have a 16x PCI-Express slot in there), I would expect that you would have to upgrade the PSU to make sure, though, a low end 8 series should be fine in that department. I would also smack another gig of memory in there too. As it goes, it does seem a decent system to build upon, for the price. maDenathorn -=-=- Intel Core i5 6400 2.7GHz, NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070 (8GB), 8Gig DDR4 RAM, 256GB SSD, 1TB HDD, Windows 10 64bit
Thu, 28 Jun 2007, 11:09
bram32	To me, it sounds like they install everything in the case, except a harddisk/cd-rom, which would mean you need to put your own hd into the case and install the drivers if needed.
Fri, 29 Jun 2007, 01:06
Dabz	Are we looking at the same one? Give super-long links a title, so they don't stretch out the site. Thats the link I get directed too, when clicking Hotshots link above!?! As far as I can see, the harddrive and cd-rom drive are included:- This PC has 160GB of HDD space, equivalent to 43,000 MP3 music files. So you will have a huge amount of space to install programs. 20x Lite on DVD RW for backing up you valuable CD's and DVD's. Experience the FASTEST writing speeds available at the moment! maDenathorn -=-=- Intel Core i5 6400 2.7GHz, NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070 (8GB), 8Gig DDR4 RAM, 256GB SSD, 1TB HDD, Windows 10 64bit
Fri, 29 Jun 2007, 05:49
JL235	maDenathorn I'm not too sure about Vista Ready (as advertised), as in, the GFX cannot handle DX10, and will stumble with Aero, and for me, a real Vista Ready PC should have even the lowest end nVidia 8 Series graphics card in (Or AMD equivalent), my guess is you'll get a base score of 3-3.5 in Home Basic. That PC is Vista ready. Vista runs very well on my PC; AMD 64 2.2ghz, 1gb ram (which is half the speed of the one in the pc above) and GeForce 6800 256mb ram. My graphics card also gets a Windows Aero Graphics score of 5.9 (out of 6). Home Basic also doesn't come with Aero (although it might come with the simple version of Aero, which looks similar, but has none of the pretty glass transparencies and alpha fades). But I wouldn't buy a PC with integrated graphics. The Intel ones are always shitty, and are the only graphics cards I've ever seen crash (as it happens, twice). The CPU in that machine is also the lowest of the Core 2 Duo's. One suggestion I'd have is to go around PC showrooms and ask about their 'clearance' PCs. They are the PCs that used to be on display in their showroom and so no longer want. They usually sell them as second hand. Namely Evesham Technology where I got my PC for only £200.
Fri, 29 Jun 2007, 09:01
Hotshot	The reason why I want E4300 Core 2 duo system kit is that I want to play command & conquer 3 and super command too. It is possible to get E4300 core 2 duo system kit around £250 or lower)? cheers
Fri, 29 Jun 2007, 10:11
Dabz	Though, Vista may work on the PC described above, probably Home Basic... For me (and other people), if a system doesnt run all the features of a specific edition of Vista, including the new DirectX API (Which is a feature in all of them), its not technically 'Vista Ready'. I can imagine a scenerio where someone will go to a shop, buy a new 'Vista Ready' PC, then buy a new DirectX10 game (when they finally appear), and be a little disappointed that in fact, their graphics card is only DX9 compliant, which in turn, means that their new shiny pc isnt in fact 'Vista Ready'... I can also imagine, that they'd be a bit miffed. It might not bother me and you, as I run Home Premium, and Aero on a lowly Geforce 7300 GS, and me and you both know to get all the new goodies from next-gen PC games, we'd have to upgrade. Try telling that to the average joe-punter though. And Mircosoft are in fact getting sued from this state of affairs:- seattlepi.nwsource.com/business/310004_msftsued03.html In my eyes, any system tagged 'Vista Ready' should at least have a GeForce 8300 GS inside it (Or an intergrated equivalent). Thats my opinion anyway maDenathorn -=-=- Intel Core i5 6400 2.7GHz, NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070 (8GB), 8Gig DDR4 RAM, 256GB SSD, 1TB HDD, Windows 10 64bit
Fri, 29 Jun 2007, 11:12
JL235	I understand your argument, but to me that's like saying that a PC which is XP capable must have a DirectX 9c capable graphics card. I know to play the latest games it should be, but I am talking about it being of running the OS at a decent speed, which is entirely different. My brother would love to have Vista, but he wouldn't bother with a DirectX 10 capable graphics card because he doesn't play games. Also no aspect of Vista requires DirectX 10.
Fri, 29 Jun 2007, 14:30
Dabz	And funnily enough, I understand yours too! I dont like the word arguement, lets call it a 'constructive discussion' I think the branding of Vista and its hardware is where the problem lies. Microsoft and hardware vendors are sprouting on about all the mega features of Vista (which is a lovely OS), Vista can do this, Vista can do that... We've rebuilt this, rebuilt that. Then they whack a Vista Ready sticker on any PC, which in laymans terms, could mean anything, and the system may not do what the customer actually wanted it for. I would actually prefer if they do something like:- Then the average punter would know! maDenathorn P.S. Nice chat BTW -=-=- Intel Core i5 6400 2.7GHz, NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070 (8GB), 8Gig DDR4 RAM, 256GB SSD, 1TB HDD, Windows 10 64bit