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Posted : Thursday, 06 September 2007, 08:50
ingenium1
If you want to create a 3D game what language would you use?


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Posted : Thursday, 06 September 2007, 09:10
Phoenix
ASM, definitely.

Nah, just kidding. Use the language you prefer, and let's not start another language debate. If you're on a journey to find the perfect language, you might as well give up now, because a perfect language doesn't exist. Stick with what you like, the language that does the job and is fun to code in.
Posted : Thursday, 06 September 2007, 09:32
abc
"because a perfect language doesn't exist"
No, but there are languages better than others.

PS: this was not to start a flame, it was just a comment


Well, actually there is not a "language for 3D", as you could use the same libraries with C/C++/Python/Java/c#/..
Actually, languages such as B3D have no future, as they are too limited, and not cross-platform.

Also, you should ask better questions.
This topic should have presented something like: "could you suggest me a 3d engine?"
Posted : Thursday, 06 September 2007, 09:32
Jayenkai
It depends entirely on how you want the game to look.
.. And, of course, on whether you can pull it off!

My suggestion would be to do a trial run in Blitz 3D, to see if you can handle the world of 3D Game creation.
If you can, and your game needs more than B3d can do, then you can port your code over to one of the many free C Compilers, most of which tend to include simplistic OpenGL engines, nowadays.

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Posted : Thursday, 06 September 2007, 09:51
Phoenix
abc No, but there are languages better than others


I didn't say anything else. A while back I was wandering around the internet in search of the perfect language, but when I found an interesting language I said "Oh no, this doesn't have X feature!" and I kept on looking. Sometimes you have to cope with the flaws.
Posted : Thursday, 06 September 2007, 09:58
abc
Yes, and it also depends on what you need to do with it, but generally a compiler can be better than others for optimization, generation of ligher binaries, speed, performance, ..

Posted : Thursday, 06 September 2007, 10:19
Jayenkai
Would you rather attempt your first 3D code in a language you're used to, just to get used to 3D?

Or would you rather go hell-for-leather and take the jump to a whole new language, so that you're learning both 3D and New Language, at the same time?

For me, option 2 would probably be something fun to do.
But I'm too lazy for that, so I'll stick with option 1!

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Posted : Thursday, 06 September 2007, 10:31
abc
Well, he didn't tell if he is used to blitz 3d.

Posted : Thursday, 06 September 2007, 10:50
Jayenkai
Not necessarily Blitz 3D.. Could be whatever his current language of choice is.

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Posted : Thursday, 06 September 2007, 11:05
abc
Yes, but it seems as his current languages doesn't have 3d libraries by default, and he didn't search for others, so asked here for a complete programming language to do the thing.

Posted : Thursday, 06 September 2007, 11:37
ingenium1
@Jay and Phoenix: I played with Blitz 3D for about one year... I think it isn't really powerful... it is easy, really easy, but not powerful... this is my opinion. I want to start a new project. This time I want to finish it . So before starting it I have to decide what language I will use... since I have about 70 years to finish this project I can learn a new language if needed

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Posted : Thursday, 06 September 2007, 11:52
abc
Well, before deciding 'i will make that game' you should search for the language you are searching for, but this is not accomplished searching on forums. Use google.
Search your documentation and make your thought, without asking on a forum for such things ('which programming language should i use' is not a question someone other than you can answer).
Then, after having learnt *well* that language, coding simpler applications, you might be able to start wanting to code a complete 3d game.

Posted : Thursday, 06 September 2007, 12:10
ingenium1
('which programming language should i use' is not a question someone other than you can answer).

If you can't answer, dont answer. Let's see if somebody else can.

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Posted : Thursday, 06 September 2007, 12:32
Hotshot
It depend what type of game you making in 3D Game.

Are you making 3D War game?
Are you making RST game?
Are you making RPG game?(It take lots of work!)

Check the link
jnoodle.com/Blitz3D/index.html

hope that help ya.

Good luck.

cheers
Posted : Thursday, 06 September 2007, 12:38
abc
Oh, but I can answer; I answered.
Your question was just wrong.

Posted : Thursday, 06 September 2007, 12:39
Hotshot
Ahhh sorry about that but I am happy to help.
anyway good luck on whatever you do.

cheers
Posted : Thursday, 06 September 2007, 12:52
ingenium1
lol, thank you Hotshot anyway
I can't really explain what I am going to do, because my idea is quite original (shhhhh xD). However I think Phoenix is right... I will follow his tip
P.s. Jay, please close this thread. You know why

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Posted : Thursday, 06 September 2007, 12:59
abc
Well, i don't think think you could have original ideas, usually you copy everything.
Then, it is strange to talk about 3d games and originality in the same sentence, as there were made too many and of too many types it is almost impossible to innovate in this field.

"P.s. Jay, please close this thread. You know why"
Well, i were writing my thoughts, which seem more robust and complete than yours, as you don't point out anything out than 'tell me which language to use'.
However i noticed *you* started answering me badly.

Posted : Thursday, 06 September 2007, 13:06
ingenium1
Well, i don't think think you could have original ideas, usually you copy everything.

I think you should not provoke me here, in this forum. We already got a red badge. I don't want to start a flame war, I don't even want to argue with you, and, honestly, I don't understand what do you want from me. :\ This is a paceful place, leave it as it is.

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But he is not alone.

Just relax... sometimes there's no need to argue.
Posted : Thursday, 06 September 2007, 13:13
abc
Yes, but that is not important, as i argument my ideas.
You were trying to start it, while i just wanted to point out some details, and only in my last post i argued against you to answer your previous posts.

"I don't understand what do you want from me"
Well, it seems more probable that you just "I don't understand", as you perfectly now why i point out (this is allowed on forums) the wrong things you wrote.

"This is a paceful place, leave it as it is."
This is strange, told by you, as for many years you have told everyone you liked war, giving argumentations to support this thought.. for example:
-it keeps the population level low
-i would kill someone other even just if he didn't do what i wanted and there weren't jails.
Among with other racist ideas against Africans.


Posted : Thursday, 06 September 2007, 13:20
power mousey
well...um to break the ice

here is one site for 3d engines
--> www.devmaster.net/engines/

and here is one site for some game libraries
-->www.freeprogrammingresources.com/gamelib.html



Posted : Thursday, 06 September 2007, 13:20
ingenium1
@power: nice links... *looks at the first link interested*
@abc:I repeat to you, we got a red badge, don't make us to be banned... :\ P.s. It's bad and false what you are writing about me :\

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Posted : Thursday, 06 September 2007, 13:28
power mousey

thank you ingenium1

I forgot about this site.
I used it a long time ago.

I hope it can be of use to you and also
to others here too.

cheers
power mousey


Posted : Thursday, 06 September 2007, 13:29
abc
Oh, very interesting.
You thing something, and you argue it everywhere, and now you tell me it's all false?
Ah-ah-ah

Well, you are a perfect hypocrite.. but you know it..


@all: doesn't it seem a too-much documented fiction?
Have i that fantasy to invent things like those?
You shouldn't ignore what i wrote.

Be aware of him
Posted : Thursday, 06 September 2007, 13:35
ingenium1
Power mousey, you should put that link in "link archieve"!
It is an amazing website! Wow...

P.s. I forgot, @power mousey: jah...

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Posted : Thursday, 06 September 2007, 13:43
power mousey

thank you

everybody,

I would be doing more 3d game progamming
and especially of animations and cut scenes
like my Xeon, Geisha Girl, Anubis, and especially
Wolfie. I was even working on a animation sequence
of John McClane-->Die Hard starring Bruce Willis
Yet and as I told some friends of mine the assembly
bug has bitten me. The 6502 bug.
I'm back into retro app and game programming in 6502 assembly language.

Yet, I plan to slowly get back into 3d programming and my animations with Blitz 3d in a few months. Hopefully and by that time Cobra 3d and/or Nuclear Basic will be out.

jah
power mousey


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