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Tue, 10 Jun 2025, 08:00
Jayenkai
So, um.. They've murdered Launchpad!?

.. I thought that was going to be a "now you can.. ALSO.. find your apps in a new way", but .. no, they murdered Launchpad completely?
They might put it back later, but for now there's no way to organise your apps.
You either see them all in alphabetical order, or in Apple's preselected groups, OR YOU'RE USING IT WRONG..

Launchpad essentially acted like the iOS Homescreen, so you shuffled all your apps around to where you needed them, so you could tap a button, click the apps you most frequently use, or learn where the other ones are, just like you would on an iPhing.

But no, they've killed that.
Now you get this..



Your apps, organised by committee.
Fuxake.



I've bought a utility called "uDock" from the AppStore, which seems ideal. Your icons in a nice little box, in the order/location you want them to be.

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Tue, 10 Jun 2025, 08:07
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Tue, 10 Jun 2025, 10:38
Pixel_Outlaw
Minimal choices and minimal visibility doesn't mean minimal problems...
That's kind of the weird thing about Apple that I found will having one for work.

You end up either having to download or buy the parts that should be there.
Take window snapping for example. In about 2009 on Linux desktop you could take a window and move it to the side of the screen and it would snap halfway dividing the window in half or you could move it to a corner and it would take up a quarter of the screen. This meant that you could have multiple windows all on one screen and the window manager would turn them into quarter sizes or half sizes or of course full sizes. Later Windows 7 got that feature. When you're a programmer you want to have your source code on one side and your source file that you're reading for information on the other. Instead you have to download an additional program like Rectangle on Mac OS.

Another feature that I've yet to see is "always on top" this lets you raise a window above all the other and do some work behind it and it will still take priority and stay on top. This is exceptionally useful if you have a small little window that you want to stay in place while you type in a larger window below it. In the Common Lisp world this is very handy because we recompile new parts into our programs as they run so we want the program to stay running in a window while we're sending it new functions to be compiled.

Now let's think about the file manager. Last time I used it and this was of course 2 years ago there was no clickable option that said show hidden files. This is crazy. Instead you had to do some magic three finger incantation that was only documented on the internet. If your program has a feature you need to display it as an option in a menu so people can see it. I saw that thing quite a lot undocumented key combinations that have been taken for granted.

When I have a computer I want to play it like an instrument to do exactly what I want. If I can't do that I want to be able to script it or program it to do so.

For me it's not so much an Apple versus Microsoft versus Linux thing it's more of a user design centric thing.


For me it felt very much like they didn't trust their users and instead provided very few options so the tech support guys would have less phones on fire. Meanwhile, as more programmers start using Mac OS they're having a terrible time unless they just accept the status quo or start burning money.
Tue, 10 Jun 2025, 11:08
Jayenkai
MacOS has had many more window-snapping options in the past version or two. I turned that shit off straight away. Good grief, how can people put up with that?

Subtly move a window ever so slightly and it's "Oh, hey, you want me over the full side of the screen!! Sure!! Weeeee!!!!"
Try to half-drag a window off screen to make a little space? No chance.
Gah!!!!!

Do you guys actually like that shit?

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Tue, 10 Jun 2025, 11:32
AndyH
Bring back XP. I'm really missing colour from modern ui's.

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Tue, 10 Jun 2025, 11:38
Pixel_Outlaw
Generally there is a sensitivity setting and I set it to something like five pixels.
It would be very poorly implemented if there was no sensitivity setting...
Tue, 10 Jun 2025, 12:33
Jayenkai

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Tue, 10 Jun 2025, 14:48
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Tue, 10 Jun 2025, 15:04
Jayenkai


The surround of the html Audio Tag is "glass", now, instead of being the dark colour it's been all along, so the background colour shines through, and the "normally white" buttons are still white.

Classy...

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Tue, 10 Jun 2025, 22:24
Kuron
That Mastadon shot isn't as bad as the new are you human thingy X is using where you have to move the little dude to different theater seats ten times in a row and if you mess up, you have to start again. That said I can at least figure these out and see them well enough.

I will have to buy uDock. Wish Fences (which I use on WIndows) was available for Macs.

I an only 8 days short of being one year in on modern Appleverse and now going to have to relearn shit I have still not fully learned.
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