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Socoder -> Off Topic -> Windows 8 : Born to Hate

Mon, 19 Sep 2011, 05:30
JL235
they are building the whole stack you are using to a) build your app and b) sell it. I think they deserve the right to charge
Mon, 19 Sep 2011, 05:30
Jayenkai
In that respect, I agree as much as I agree with Apple doing it. No issues there.

My main issue, though, is how they're so desperately trying to Apple-ise Windows.

Windows is Windows, and it's as popular as Windows, because Windows is Windows.

People are loving iOS for good reason, but desperately tweaking Windows to be like it is only doing one thing.
It's breaking Windows!!

Apple are, bit by bit, tweaking MacOSX to be a bit more iOS like, but only at points where it might be relevant to the user, whereas MS seem to be jumping in, blindly, and knocking out some kind of weirdo messy smushed up crazy thing, with (quite frankly) a bunch of boxes that have no artistic niceness whatsoever. (unless you do indeed like your icons to look entirely like something from the early 90s.. all boxy and shit)

Look at your desktop.
Look how many perfectly square boxes there are.
Look at all those horrible sharp edges..

See them all?
.. No?

Socoder has a square blocky design, and nobody likes that.
I'll be damned if that's the future of my desktop..

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Mon, 19 Sep 2011, 12:12
Stealth
The key difference is that Apple allows developers to build for the new platform and bypass the App Store if they choose. Microsoft (appears) to only be using the App Store for distribution on Metro. This could be a win/win if Microsoft made Windows free and supported it with app purchases.

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Mon, 19 Sep 2011, 16:53
9572AD
TBH, I prefer the blocky sharp-edged look to the stupid shiny rounded-edge look.

But Windows 8 has no Windows, from what I've heard. You get a slot on the grid, or fullscreen. WTF?

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Mon, 19 Sep 2011, 19:11
JL235
9572AD But Windows 8 has no Windows, from what I've heard. You get a slot on the grid, or fullscreen. WTF?

You can run the apps 'clicked' together, so you can have them side by side. Fullscreen also works much better on lower resolutions, and with a touch interface, which is typical for a tablet. But most of all I'd recommend you try it out for yourself.

You can also distribute non-Metro apps through the Windows store, and you can distribute Metro apps yourself (which currently you'd have to do if you built something nice). Although I've not tried downloading and running a Metro app, so I have no idea how nice/bad the process is.

One thing I noticed using Visual Studio is that projects you build get added to your list of apps in Metro. So I suspect Metro automatically links them to your programs when they are first run.