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Wed, 25 Apr 2007, 15:49
Jayenkai



A nice simple Benchmark-esque Blitz program.
This program pretty much does all the things that my Hero game does when it's loading. (Just that Hero does a bit more/less in different places.)

Shroom_Monk complained that the game takes AGES to load, so I made a speed test to compare how fast everyone's systems are doing each thing.
Copy+Paste into blitz, and run it (without Debugmode!)
(You don't need to save it!)

A text file will appear with the results.
Scroll down to the bottom, and copy+paste the little table.



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Wed, 25 Apr 2007, 16:18
Blitz3Dman
wow, never realized how slow my computer runs O_o


with internet explorer and B3D ide open:



and your game runs 100% fine on my computer.



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Wed, 25 Apr 2007, 16:23
Jayenkai
Multiple runs = things get cached, and stuff, so if you're going to post, please post your first run results. Thanks.

BTW, don't be ashamed if your system has a really rubbish result!
I just want to know exactly what could be slowing down the loading on Shroom's system, so all results are helpful!

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Wed, 25 Apr 2007, 16:26
JL235
Just rebooted and only Firefox and Excel are running, but I don't think it'd really make a difference. I've not tried playing your game so I dunno how well it runs.



If I remember, I'll try it again after a clean boot.
Wed, 25 Apr 2007, 16:28
Jayenkai
As I suspected, it appears to be #3 that's causing most of the insane variations in speed!
I might very well need to reduce the number of images that the game's loading!

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Wed, 25 Apr 2007, 16:31
JL235
Maybe it's based on graphics card? I have a Geforce Fx 5600 XT.
Wed, 25 Apr 2007, 16:34
Blitz3Dman
I have a.. er, what's a graphics card?

I tell you if I knew it myself.

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Wed, 25 Apr 2007, 16:40
steve_ancell
That's cobblers. Here are my results, yet I know that my PC is quick. It just dont add up :~.

PC Specs :-
Intel Pentium 4 @ 3.00 GHZ (2 CPU's).
120 GB HDD.
512 MB RAM.
NVIDIA GeForce FX 5200 Graphics.
Monitor LG FLATRON L1919S @ 8ms.

DirectX 9.0c (09.0000.0904)

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|Test | Time Taken | Fast/Slow
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| 1 | 175 | Real Slow |
| 2 | 22 | Fast |
| 3 | 11642 | Real Slow |
| 4 | 77 | Real Slow |
| 5 | 2 | Fast |
| 6 | 61 | Slower |
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Total Time : 11979
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Wed, 25 Apr 2007, 16:45
JL235
His pc is faster then mine, and he uses a Geforce FX too (although a worse model which might explain that it's slower). Maybe Shroom does too?

1.47ghz Athlon XP
512gb Ram

|edit| I'll try it on the laptop sitting next to me too. That has an Intel card. |edit|
Wed, 25 Apr 2007, 16:49
steve_ancell
What I dont get is the figures say slow and my eyeballs say no. To me sitting in front of this computer, it seems pretty damn fast to me.
Wed, 25 Apr 2007, 16:52
steve_ancell
Ah !, but then again... I have got lots of Apps running on here, but even with all that going on it still looks fast.
Wed, 25 Apr 2007, 17:03
JL235
On one of the laptops:



2.66ghz Mobile Pentium 4
224mb ram
Intel 82852/82855 GM/GME Graphics 'Controller'

Dunno how the Intel card compares to a proper graphics card, but pretty certain it's worse then my Geforce FX. It's also the only card that I've ever used that has crashed.
Wed, 25 Apr 2007, 17:20
Jayenkai
I used to have a GeForce 5700 in my old system, and had really slow image loading on that, too. I'd always put it down to the fact that the system was a Celeron, but... From the look of these results, it was actually the gfx card doing all the slow loading.

How strange!

(btw, I know it says "Real Slow" on most things, that's just due to the way I really quickly made the comparison thing! Look at the code, it's hardly amazing work!)

So... Image Loading Reduction will definately now be my next step in perfecting Hero!

|edit| For those who haven't spotted the huge issue, notice that Diablo's laptop loads a picture in 0.8 seconds, whereas his desktop PC takes 10 seconds to do the same thing. It's Test #3. |edit|

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Wed, 25 Apr 2007, 17:24
JL235
Next week I could try it on my pc, which has a Geforce 6800. I'd bet it's the whole FX series. I've heard GeForce 7's have a real performance hit with one effect, might be anti-aliasing. But not too sure.
Wed, 25 Apr 2007, 18:30
steve_ancell
I just downloaded the FX series driver from NVIDIA. Whole new ballgame.

================================
|Test | Time Taken | Fast/Slow
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| 1 | 68 | Real Slow |
| 2 | 52 | Slower |
| 3 | 9552 | Real Slow |
| 4 | 70 | Real Slow |
| 5 | 2 | Fast |
| 6 | 60 | Slower |
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Total Time : 9804
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Wed, 25 Apr 2007, 20:42
JL235
I noticed a noticable increase in performance when I got the latest drivers for my 6800 a month ago. The XP drivers do seem to be vastly improved. But that's still a pretty bad performance from the Geforce FX.
Thu, 26 Apr 2007, 00:07
shroom_monk


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Thu, 26 Apr 2007, 03:18
mike_g
Blitz3DMan wow, never realized how slow my computer runs O_o

You only have the demo version of Blitz right? Then you can only run the prog with debug on which slows it down loads.

Thu, 26 Apr 2007, 04:55
steve_ancell
I've got the full boxed Blitz-3D, and I have turned debug off.

|edit| I know that I've only had the computer a couple of years, but an upgrade is sure smelling good right now. |edit|
Thu, 26 Apr 2007, 04:59
steve_ancell
Ere Shroom, what system are you running Bro ?.
Thu, 26 Apr 2007, 05:06
Jayenkai
Hmm.. Shroom's Test 3 went ok, but his test 6 went super slow.
What's that all about!?

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Thu, 26 Apr 2007, 05:11
steve_ancell
Looks like his system's quite quick, but his memory's not.
Thu, 26 Apr 2007, 05:12
steve_ancell
What system did you do your test on Jay ?.
Thu, 26 Apr 2007, 05:16
Jayenkai
Pentium® D CPU 2.80 (Dual core)
2Gb of ram, and onboard Intel gfx.

Don't put too much faith into these numbers. Sure the gfx are slow at loading, but remember that this is Blitz.. And it's running in 2D mode. For 99% of your games, your gfx card will be shifting through hundreds of images a second without even caring.

(Having said that, does Half Life 2 do that stuttering thing on your system?)

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Thu, 26 Apr 2007, 05:22
steve_ancell
Dunno, I've never played Half Life 2.
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