Blitz Plus? - Socoder

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Sun, 27 Jan 2008, 08:12
spinal	I'm trying to download a demo of blitz plus, although the page is not working. Does anyone know what the limitations are of the demo version? will I be able to compile code? -=-=- Check out my excellent homepage!
Sun, 27 Jan 2008, 08:40
mole	It cannot create executables. I'm not sure if it has a 30 day limit as well though... Cannot remember.
Sun, 27 Jan 2008, 08:46
Jayenkai	It's 30 runs actually, but yeah, other than No EXE's, there's nothing missing. -=-=- ''Load, Next List!''
Sun, 27 Jan 2008, 08:47
Phoenix	I wouldn't recommend BlitzPlus -- there are other better, free alternatives. C# (Or VB.NET), for example. I did buy Blitz+ years ago, and I can assure you that it's not worth the money.
Sun, 27 Jan 2008, 09:50
JL235	For Windows, I agree with Phoenix. If you want cross-platform, then try Java too. NetBeans 6 for example can run anywhere that Java can run, which is most operating systems.
Sun, 27 Jan 2008, 10:42
power mousey	spinal, why not try a demo of Blitz 3d? also, Creative Basic, Emergence Basic, and Aurora are all free at www.ionicwind.com/ Developed by Paul Turley, the man behind IBasic.
Sun, 27 Jan 2008, 10:56
spinal	Have you tried any of those? (the free ones) do they allow use of windows dialog boxes for file selection etc? -=-=- Check out my excellent homepage!
Sun, 27 Jan 2008, 11:10
JL235	Yes, that's something pretty standard. I use Java with Swing a lot and in the Swing library there is a JFileChooser class which is standard for doing File saving and Loading. It also allows filters so you can allow the user to only see say folders and .bb files, or perhaps only normal folders and folders that contain a special file of some kind. Then special folders could also appear differently to normal ones to help distinguish them, like in NetBeans and many other IDE's. You can also of course subclass the classes so you can add your own functionality. For example I recently made a frame where the draw method was overridden so that it always drew a given picture as it's background. It was only about 5 lines, although I think there are easier ways to achieve that in Swing. I don't make GUI's with C#, but I would be VERY surprised if similar functionality (or more likely, functionality that was better and more oriented towards Windows) wasn't in .NET.
Sun, 27 Jan 2008, 11:39
Phoenix	C#, or .NET generally, is the best way to develop native Windows applications, and Visual Studio makes it a piece of cake. In .NET, there is support for dialog boxes, windows, and countless controls that you'll never be able to get by using BlitzPlus. The UI built will also be more flexible -- it'll be able to respond to almost any kind of action you could possibly think up. To top it off, B+ lacks a decent UI designer. It'll be tedious and boring to create all the windows and controls by hand.
Sun, 27 Jan 2008, 11:41
power mousey	yes, spinal. I have IBasic and used it a lot many years ago. Both Emergence and Creative are variants of IBasic and add some more features to IBasic. but hey, I thought you were getting a kick and quite into the homebrew of Nintendo DS? Perhaps, and maybe you should get into some kind of C/C++ language.
Sun, 27 Jan 2008, 12:01
Jayenkai	I think the main reason Spinal wants to use B+ is because his Video Encoder is already up and running in Blitz, and he'd rather not have to recode the thing in another language whic might cause all kinds of alternative issues. If it were me, I'd stick with Blitz, and get the job done, rather than piss about for another week. But I'm lazy like that -=-=- ''Load, Next List!''
Sun, 27 Jan 2008, 13:32
Phoenix	Fair point, but... Jayenkai ...and get the job done... Mmfpfph! I swear, that a .NET language would get the job done twice as fast as Blitz.
Sun, 27 Jan 2008, 13:51
JL235	I agree with Pheonix on almost everything. The UI designer in Visual Studio is one of the best, if not the best, there is in an IDE. However I think writing the code out by hand is a better way to go. More control and helps you better understand what is going on.
Sun, 27 Jan 2008, 14:04
Scherererer	Use C#! By far it is the best solution to your problem imho -=-=- YouTube Twitter Computer Science Series: Logic (pt1) (part 2) (part 3) 2's Complement Mathematics: Basic Differential Calculus
Sun, 27 Jan 2008, 14:07
spinal	Unless someone else want to convert the code and compile it for me? -=-=- Check out my excellent homepage!
Mon, 28 Jan 2008, 13:24
spinal	I'm gunna try that Emergence BASIC, the examples seem useful. Just need to find a couple of tutorials or something. -=-=- Check out my excellent homepage!
Mon, 28 Jan 2008, 14:16
power mousey	cool, Spinal. tell me or us... if you like it or not. There is always Pure Basic and even Play Basic. Yet, by the sound of the name it sounds more like a Playdoh toy. I'm sticking with Blitz 3d myself.
Tue, 29 Jan 2008, 13:33
spinal	I'm going to have another look at some of the examples, but, it seems you have to pay to use the official forum! and google refuses to find me some tutorials (yes I know its just basic, but not even a hello world?). so we'll see. I'm looking at the demo of B+, does anyone still have a copy that could compile my code when it's finished? It looks like it will be a one off project, it's the converter for my movie player. -=-=- Check out my excellent homepage!
Tue, 29 Jan 2008, 15:11
Jayenkai	Tut tut.. That's almost blatent piracy there! There's Freebasic, which I think includes GUI Commands, or at least the ability to add them... doesn't it? -=-=- ''Load, Next List!''
Tue, 29 Jan 2008, 15:45
JL235	and of course Visual Basic.
Tue, 29 Jan 2008, 23:41
power mousey	yeah, unfortunately thats how they draw people in and make some money for people to register for their forums and also for support and help. the developers for cough cough Dark Basic and cough DBPRO tried it themseves. Didn't go over very well. here is a site I'm using while I'm awaiting for the XGS 6502 www.6502asm.com and here is some code init: ldx #0 loop: lda block1,x cmp #255 beq done sta $0200, x inx jmp loop done: rts block1: dcb 1,1,1,1,1,1,1,255 --v
Wed, 30 Jan 2008, 07:26
Phoenix	Could you show the code, Spinal? Is it large?
Wed, 30 Jan 2008, 07:30
Afr0	Second Phoenix, Diablos and Instinct on this one.
Wed, 30 Jan 2008, 10:08
spinal	I can show the code, it's quite short, but its blitz only, no gui or anything yet. Theres a couple of crazy ideas in there, mainly I didn't like that I had to use a .bat rather than running the command line app directly and I had to think up a way to make sure it had finished what it was doing for blitz continuing. Anyway, here it is... Please excuse the mess. Graphics 256,192,0,2 ; size not important AppTitle "Video Converter" DeleteFile "wait.txt" ; delete the file first_time$=CurrentTime$() ; normal = 256x192 ; wide = 256x144 ; set the height and width of the video vid_width=256 vid_height=144 ; set the framerate (15 default) vid_framerate=12 ; set the bitrate/qulity vid_bitrate=270 ; 300kbps? ; set input file vid_file$="ghostbusters.mpg" ; create an msdos batch file and execute it to create the indevidual frames batfile = WriteFile("convert.bat") ; This line will extract the audio from the movie in a format [almost] playable in palib ; default -vol 256 ; -ac = channels (1 = mono) ; -ar = sample rate ; -ab = bitrate ; -y = overwrite ; -vol = volume (512=100%) ; bat1$ = "ffmpeg -i "+vid_file$+" -ac 1 -ar 11025 -ab 128 -y -vol 1024 audio.wav" ; This line will extract all the jpg frames ... -b "+vid_bitrate+" -qscale 12 bat2$ = "ffmpeg -i "+vid_file$+" -r "+vid_framerate+" -qscale 9 -s "+vid_width+"x"+vid_height+" framedump\%%d.jpg" bat3$ = "ffmpeg >wait.txt" ; create a txt file so we know we're done. WriteLine batfile,bat1$ WriteLine batfile,bat2$ WriteLine batfile,bat3$ CloseFile(batfile) filename$ = Chr$(34) + "convert.bat" + Chr$(34) Text 0,0,"Waiting..." ExecFile(filename$) ; wait till we have wait.txt, this should show we have finished extraction While Not FileType("wait.txt") VWait() Wend Text 0,12,"Extracted." framecount#=1 While FileType("framedump\"+Int(framecount#)+".jpg") framecount#=framecount#+1 Wend framecount#=framecount#-1 ; remove the last frame cos it doesn't exist Cls Print framecount# videofile=WriteFile("video.smf") ; the video data (spinal media format) framestep=framecount#/250 ; Find out how far appart to set the skip fs#=1 ; current frame step Dim frame_offset(250) Dim frame_number(250) x=0 For t=1 To framecount# a$="framedump/"+t+".jpg" ; name of frame image size_of_frame = FileSize(a$) ;-------------[ Write frame size ]-------------------- WriteShort(videofile,size_of_frame) ;-------------[ Copy jpg to video file ]-------------- infile=ReadFile(a$) For s=1 To size_of_frame bite=ReadByte(infile) WriteByte(videofile,bite) Next CloseFile(infile) ; picture=LoadImage(a$) ; DrawBlock picture,0,0 ; VWait() Color 0,0,0 Rect 0,0,256,100,1 Color 255,255,255 Text 0,0,framecount# Text 0,12,t Text 0,24,Float(framecount#/250) DeleteFile(a$) ; set skip point If t=Int(fs#) Then frame_offset(x)=current_offset frame_number(x)=t x=x+1 fs#=fs#+Float(framecount#/250) Print End If current_offset = current_offset + size_of_frame + 2 ; update the offset Next CloseFile(videofile) Print:Print:Print:Print Print "Video Created." Print "adding frame table." framefile=WriteFile("frames.smf") ; save the frame info to a file For t=0 To 249 WriteInt(framefile,frame_offset(t)) Next For t=0 To 249 WriteShort(framefile,frame_number(t)) Next CloseFile(framefile) ;-------------[ Create the file header ]-------------- outfile = WriteFile("header.smf") ;format = 1 ; the first verson of the file format :P ;width = vid_width-1 ; width of video ;height = vid_height-1 ; height of video ;WriteByte(outfile,format) ;WriteByte(outfile,width) ;WriteByte(outfile,height) table_offset=FileSize("audio.wav")+14+FileSize("video.smf") WriteShort(outfile,samplesize) WriteInt(outfile,framecount#) WriteInt(outfile,FileSize("audio.wav")+14) ; 20 is number of bytes in header WriteInt(outfile,table_offset) ; offset to frame table (currently not used) CloseFile(outfile) ;-------------[ Join the header and the data ]-------- DeleteFile("wait.txt") ; make sure we CAN wait. batfile = WriteFile("convert.bat") ; This line will extract the audio from the movie in a format [almost] playable in palib ;bat1$ = "copy /b header.smf + video.smf output.smf" bat1$ = "copy /b header.smf + audio.wav + video.smf + frames.smf movie.smf" bat2$ = "ffmpeg >wait.txt" ; create a txt file so we know we're done. WriteLine batfile,bat1$ WriteLine batfile,bat2$ CloseFile(batfile) filename$ = Chr$(34) + "convert.bat" + Chr$(34) ExecFile(filename$) While Not FileType("wait.txt") VWait() Wend DeleteFile("header.smf") DeleteFile("frames.smf") DeleteFile("audio.wav") DeleteFile("video.smf") DeleteFile("wait.txt") DeleteFile("convert.bat") Print table_offset Print "Done" last_time$=CurrentTime$() Print first_time$ Print last_time$ WaitKey() End --v I haven't cam up with any ideas on what parts of the conversion will be changeable by the user, but I'm at least thinking the input and output filenames should be -=-=- Check out my excellent homepage!
Wed, 30 Jan 2008, 11:42
Phoenix	I can't imagine that would be hard to convert to C#. However, right now I'm a bit stressed, so I can't help you yet.
Wed, 30 Jan 2008, 12:14
Afr0	Reserving this spot for the solution Gentlemen, the race is on! -=-=- Afr0 Games Project Dollhouse on Github - Please fork!
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