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Socoder -> Off Topic -> blu-ray wins

Sat, 16 Feb 2008, 10:28
toshiba is not making hd-dvd anymore. although there is not an offical anouncment yet.


Sat, 16 Feb 2008, 11:00
So... What Toshiba is saying is "HD-DVD is a load of Tosh ! ".

What happens to the customers that already purchased a HD-DVD player ?. I Toshiba has pulled the plug on making HD-DVD's, does this mean that the customer has potentially bought a "House-Brick" that they can no longer get media for ?.

I hope that Toshiba are going to compensate the people that have already purchased their House-Brick.
Sat, 16 Feb 2008, 12:30
well, people with the house-brick will get an amazing discount on what dvd's are left though. I'm glad its over, because now i know exactly which one i'm going to buy.

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Sat, 16 Feb 2008, 17:35
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so blue ray wipes er um winn....whooooopeeeeeee!!!!

I have so many regular DVDs to choose from and even rent out at BlockBuster or Hollywood Video. True.
Sat, 16 Feb 2008, 17:52
Those house bricks will be collectors items in 20 years time...

Just like Betamax video recorders are now...


...or not!

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Sat, 16 Feb 2008, 19:00
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I sure hope so!
And also those big laser disc ones too.

I have some Power Ranger Wild Force shirts and even a Star Wars shirt of anaken from the Phantom Menace. He is walking in the desert and a shadow is cast on this big rock and in the form of Darth Vader.
I couldn't wear the shirt cause it was of the wrong size.
Sat, 16 Feb 2008, 20:56
Hoo-ray Blu-Rry.

Honestly, even if I had a HDTV and the appropriate HD media player, I'd only buy the HD version of a movie if it was the same price or cheaper than the DVD.

I've done side-by-side comparisons. The only real noticable difference is in empty areas of the screen (places you wouldn't be looking at anyhow) there are fewer compression artefacts in the HD version. Woot.

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Sun, 17 Feb 2008, 09:11
I was voting for HD-DVD...mostly because I hate Sony with a passion. I'm upset.

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Sun, 17 Feb 2008, 09:49
I'd much rather just shove a bunch of DivX compressed stuff onto a standard DVD, and play 'em all on my standard-def TV, to be honest.
Ever since I got my DivX player (£25 from argos) I've managed to compress my DVD library down to about 15 CD's.
TV Series box sets usually fit from 5 discs down to 2.
So, ok, you don't get the extras, or even the commentaries.. And god-knows I love my commentaries. But that's what the original's are there for. And I'm a hoarder, so it's not like they're ever going to go anywhere!
But in the meantime, you can leave a disc in the thing, and be sure there's gonna be something to watch.

High-def? Who needs it!
Bah, Humbug.

|edit| And by the time we all NEED HD stuff, it'll all be done through streamed/downloaded stuff, anyway.. |edit|

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Sun, 17 Feb 2008, 10:45
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yeah, bah humbugs. True.

again, I'll just watch my DVDs, various youtube and google clips, and rent out DVD movies from Block Buster and Hollywood video.
Sun, 17 Feb 2008, 11:38
I wouldn't notice any difference, on my nice low-def telly - but it would make backups quite easy - fit all 25/50GB worth of data onto one disc (I think that's how big they are), rather than 5 DVDs. But then again, if I just archive the important stuff, it'll fit in 300MB anyway.

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Sun, 17 Feb 2008, 12:31
I dunno HoboBen, it depends on how reliable it is. I have bought several stacks of DVDs where they stop working after a year. Often with discs I didn't even take off the stack and they just don't burn. In contrast I have a large stack of CDs where not one of them has ever broke, ever. I've had several DVD-drives break and my current ones have been dodgy at times. Again I've never had any problems with a CD-drive.

However I disagree about not needing the increased quality. My dad has a HD tv and so I plugged my PC into it. The picture is amazing. Plus DVDs are in reality a terrible low-quality format. Sure they are better then videos, but it's nothing compared to cinema quality. Especially with dark colours where VHS may actually be better.
Sun, 17 Feb 2008, 12:53
I agree with Jay, actually. We should all just switch to using DivX or Xvid players instead of formats like dvd/blue-ray, etc. They have DivX players out there that are pretty cool that I'd consider buying. Usually they either have some kind of wifi or usb hookup so that you can transfer movies right off your computer. The industry is really moving towards making an all-in-one media platform (like the 360 and ps3 are trying to do, the 360 moreso than the ps3 because of its connectivity with vista) that links all the electronics in your house.

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Sun, 17 Feb 2008, 14:23
I do and don't agree. Yes the industry (especially Microsoft) are moving towards increased easy connectivity between devices. Moving to the point where I can put my camera down on my Surface PC and it will automatically spew all my photos out all over the screen (which could potentially be very embarrassing).

However machines like the PS3, 360 and PS2 before them were more trying to be multimedia machines so we have one big black box under our TV instead of 2, 3 or 4 little ones. This has been tried for years and I still think at best it's a niche market. The majority of people don't buy VHS/DVD combo devices or TVs with a DVD/VHS player built in. People also didn't and don't buy the PS2, PS3, XBox or 360 especially to use as a DVD/Blue-Ray player. They bought it for it's console factor.

Yes people have them and yes people do use them for playing DVDs (me included), but the majority of people tend to buy and use several separate dedicated devices instead.
Sun, 17 Feb 2008, 20:10
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Thats true, JL. Like, I would buy a Playstation 2 as a
game console and to play games. And perhaps once in
awhile use it as a back up DVD player.
But yeah, I have dedicated devices for various playing options.
Tue, 19 Feb 2008, 12:14
fit all 25/50GB worth of data onto one disc

As far as i know, 10 layered version which is in development will allow up to 250gb. i think its BR 2.0 that will have the software update (which is all that it is reported to play the new disks) that will run them.
any good BR player can be flashed with a disk or internet network updates(ps3 for instance).

you can remember this date as the day hd-dvd died

so it is now offical. blu-ray is the successor of dvd.

i just noticed i made a spelling mistake in the title. blue-ray should be blu-ray :s


Wed, 20 Feb 2008, 20:35
You mean Blu-Rry

And I won't believe it's the successor to DVD until it kills DVD.
Right now it's a superfluous format that's only managed to kill off another superfluous format.

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Thu, 21 Feb 2008, 09:42
You mean Blu-Rry




Thu, 21 Feb 2008, 11:27
(Initial reports on the compression codec adopted by BD indicated that the resulting picture was a bit fuzzy, hence my pun on the name)

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Thu, 21 Feb 2008, 13:04
power mousey

the quality of the image of the film or movie on the DVD
can be dependent on a lot of factors:

the production quality of the DVD medium
the method of the printing and duplication of said film or movie.
the production quality of the film or movie itself.
the Companys or Distributions choices of DVD duplication and quality.
the type and brand of DVD machine you are using
the display device to watch and view the movie or fim from the DVD.

I have a Sony DVD machine as well as a Sony Trinitron color television. And 15 inch color tv too. Most of the films and movies from the DVD are displayted as really good quality.
They have been a few that are of lower quality either cause of the quality of the medium or the production quality of the film involved.
I don't expect a low budge B film to be of great quality.
Nor some of these old movies either but you'd be surprised with some of these silent movies.
Digitalization and duplication can go only so far. I still see rips and tears in some of these silent movies that were digitized onto DVD. Like the silent movie version of the Wizard of Oz, and the Patchwork Girl of Oz. And some look fuzzy and hazy from time to time. But hey, that was the start of movie making. Sometimes, you can only do so much.