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Socoder -> Off Topic -> Development via GUI

Thu, 16 May 2013, 08:42
Jayenkai
3% coding.. Bah, I hate modern dev kits!!!
Thu, 16 May 2013, 08:42
waroffice
this has come out of Google I/O Linkage
Thu, 16 May 2013, 09:43
Afr0
Jay, you need to get your ass out of the eighties and smell the roses - this is the future!

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Thu, 16 May 2013, 10:15
Jayenkai
Code with your keys, not your mouse!!!!
Thu, 16 May 2013, 10:20
Cower
I will stick with my text editor and terminal. IDEs are for chumps.
Thu, 16 May 2013, 11:04
spinal
Code with your keys, not your mouse!


Best quote ever, like the angry advice from parents! (look with your eyes, not your hands!)

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Thu, 16 May 2013, 11:05
Jayenkai
I swear, I'm getting more like Greenie every day!

Get out the hole punchers, kids!!

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Thu, 16 May 2013, 11:25
Afr0
I will stick with my text editor and terminal. IDEs are for chumps.


(not Notepad - that's a bad idea)


What's the difference between your text editor and Notepad?


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Thu, 16 May 2013, 12:09
Cower
The difference is that notepad is a piece of crap and my text editor, Sublime Text 2, is the destroyer of worlds:


Thu, 16 May 2013, 12:50
Afr0
Does Sublime Text 2 support autocomplete?
Can you go to the definition of classes and structs?
Does it support build automation?

If it does, I don't see what's so different from an IDE.
If it doesn't, then I don't see the difference between Sublime Text 2 and Notepad, except for [custom] color schemes and the ability to have multiple files open at once.



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Thu, 16 May 2013, 13:10
Cower
Yeah, I'm not going to waste time explaining how a programmer's text editor differs from Notepad or a typical IDE. If you somehow haven't figured it out in the last 11 years, you're hopeless.
Thu, 16 May 2013, 14:00
Afr0
I know most text editors don't support build automation, and quite frankly I don't see the big deal.
Most IDEs will allow you to pass parameters to the compiler anyway...

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Thu, 16 May 2013, 16:20
steve_ancell
Cower I will stick with my text editor and terminal. IDEs are for chumps.

Me likes IDEs.
Thu, 16 May 2013, 21:37
Cower
You's a chumps.
Thu, 16 May 2013, 21:40
JL235
The real difference between IDEs and text editors, is that they go beyond the text-editing bit. They also tend to have more project specific types of setups, with templates provided.

When IDEs fit just right, they are awesome. The trouble is that most don't fit well. NetBeans and IntelliJ for massive Java projects work well, VS too with C# and TypeScript, and that's about it.

I'd otherwise just prefer a text-editor, namely Vim.
Thu, 16 May 2013, 23:46
Afr0
is that they go beyond the text-editing bit.


Right, that's what I like about IDEs. Code completion, integrated debuggers and build automation helps increase your productivity.

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Thu, 16 May 2013, 23:58
Dabz
Notepad++, Visual Studio and Geany... That's me!

Dabz

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Fri, 17 May 2013, 08:59
JL235
I would count code-completion as a part of a text-editor.

Especially since most text-editors support it.
Mon, 20 May 2013, 03:48
waroffice
I was trying to point out that the way to code android via Eclipse is terrible and buggy, an IDE is perfect to not scare people away from it.

Text editors and IDEs have their pros/cons depending on what you are coding. for example Visual Basic in a text editor would suck!

Pick your handbags up gents and get back to dancin'