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Socoder -> Off Topic -> Why do Brits use incorrect grammar?

Posted : Wednesday, 17 March 2021, 02:34
Afr0

Why do Brits use incorrect grammar?


Recently I’ve been paying attention to something: Instead of “I’m sitting here programming”, Brits will say “I’m sat here programming”.
Why?????

Are you doing it on purpose? Are you aware that this is technically incorrect use of grammar?

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Posted : Wednesday, 17 March 2021, 03:11
spinal
Same reason people in other English speaking countries use words differently or use different words or even made up words like 'supposebly', the way Americans 'axe' people questions and other English countries 'ask'. Because language is fluid and it evolves quicker than other things in our lives.

You'd hate it up here in the north, we remove the trailing 'g's from a lot of words and harden every single vowel we find, 'becoming' is pronounced 'bee-kum-nn'...

Why do Amercians remove perfectly good 'u's from words?

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Posted : Wednesday, 17 March 2021, 03:21
Afr0
Actually, «axe» is correct. It’s part of AAVE, which is recognized as a variant of English (at least by Wikipedia...)
I’m not sure what kind of variant though. Maybe it’s a sociolect?

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Posted : Wednesday, 17 March 2021, 04:47
Jayenkai
It's simply because of where English grew from.
Most European languages inherited most of their language rules from Latin, or thereabouts, whereas English is made up of all the myriad of places that the British Empire once conquered.

Whilst most European languages seem interconnected in ways, we also include chunks of Indian language, as well as inheriting other far off languages.
We're also not as strict about our language, either. Recent examples are French terms for computer technology.
Most countries are happy with email, but the French Language Body (The French Academy) specifically prefer "courriel". England doesn't really have anything like that.
Instead, our main governing body for language is pretty much our Dictionary compilers, who, rather than saying "this is the correct word/phrase", will instead study what's actually being used, and compile that instead.

So, if people do start saying "to Google", then .. damnit, Google is a word!!

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Posted : Wednesday, 17 March 2021, 06:19
Afr0
Thanks for an informative answer!
Maybe you should form an English Language Body, Jay!

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Posted : Wednesday, 17 March 2021, 07:10
Jayenkai
If you're "really" interested in words/grammar/etc, an interesting podcast you may like* is "Something Rhymes With Purple", in which Gyles Brandreth and Susie Dent discuss words, their origins, and more, each and every week.

Susie has worked with Oxford English Dictionaries for decades, as well as being the Countdown Dictionary Corner Queen for almost as long, whilst Gyles is one of the founders of the UK Scrabble Championships, and owns an alarming number of woolly jumpers and teddy bears.


* I'm assuming you're fluent enough in Spoken English to enjoy an audio podcast, but as I'm writing this, I realise I honestly don't have a clue.

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Posted : Wednesday, 17 March 2021, 07:23
Afr0
Thanks, I’ll check it out. It’s easier for me to understand RP, but I can understand some English dialects.
Brummie (Ozzy Osborne) is particularly hard for some reason, I always have to use subtitles 🤔

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Posted : Wednesday, 17 March 2021, 07:27
Pakz
I remember learning that "goodbye" was a word that mutated? From the line "god be with ye"

Things like that must have been going on for like since people started speaking.

In a movie yesterday Ilearned that "ok" was coined in the us president van buren time. He was a member at his school of a club by that name. That is were "he's ok" comes from.

I really want to dig into some kind of book about language and history one day.
Posted : Wednesday, 17 March 2021, 07:36
Jayenkai
RP's definitely on the cards, for Something Rhymes with Purple. They both speak "proper"

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