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Socoder -> Off Topic -> Google's AI Music

Fri, 27 Jan 2023, 05:19
Pakz
Wow! I think this is the year of the music dalle2 : Linkage
Fri, 27 Jan 2023, 05:19
Jayenkai
Initial thoughts : Bad idea putting all those Audio tags together in one page like that.

If your system's struggling to load the page/function correctly, try using Opera. That seems to handle it all much better.

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Fri, 27 Jan 2023, 05:22
Jayenkai
The results are amazing. This is definitely a better way to do it. They've obviously got the AI to generate notes, then played those notes with instruments. Or at least, it sounds much more like that, than the other version that tried to reproduce sounds, instead of instruments.

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Fri, 27 Jan 2023, 05:26
Pakz
There is still some clarity issues and the quality could be better. But this is going to be great!
Fri, 27 Jan 2023, 05:38
Jayenkai
Yeah, having listened to a bunch of them, it's all less mushy than the previous versions.
If you listen carefully, you can still hear the mushy drums and mushy pianos and mushy guitars, but they all sound clearly defined as their own layers of mush.
I think what it's doing, is it's trying to reproduce the sounds like before, but it's doing it all separately, then smushing it together at the end.
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Again, I think.

There's a link to the Paper, but I'm not in the mood for a read-a-thon, right now!!

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Fri, 27 Jan 2023, 05:43
Pakz
This generating is sequential, It predicts the next token afaik. So maybe audio block after audio block. They need to get these blocks in the rights shape or something.
Fri, 27 Jan 2023, 05:47
Jayenkai
If you listen to the "Long Generation : Melodic Techno", about 15 seconds in comes a really big long "noise" boom thing.
That, to me, is quite clearly on another layer than the other instruments.
With the old OpenAI Jukebox, the noise would've interfered with the rest of the generation, caused nasty feedback, and it all would've become a hazy mess thereafter.

.. Again, I'm guessing, here, but that's what it sounds like to me.

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Fri, 27 Jan 2023, 05:57
Pakz
I am reading through the paper. They are indeed using layers of systems. One acoustic model. They also train on the free music archive(fma) with a couple of millions clips.

They hired specialists to write 5k of quality music sequences.

They use long term models and shorter term ones. They use their previous systems.
Fri, 27 Jan 2023, 06:01
Jayenkai
I'm really liking the "Tribal drums with flute" tracks

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Fri, 27 Jan 2023, 06:05
Pakz
Yeah, has a shadow of the beast and synthesizer feel to it!

I am stil not sure how much time the generation takes and the compute power. The previous one took half a day or more per minute. So that might be a (big) problem.
Fri, 27 Jan 2023, 06:13
Jayenkai
It's no Algorhythm, that's for sure!
Fri, 27 Jan 2023, 06:47
Jayenkai
AlgoMUSIC.. That's why I can never bloody well find it.
It's called AlgoMusic.

AlgoMusic runs on an Amiga, here's the output from my A600. .. In realtime!!

American and Californian : 2023/04/AmericanAndCalifornian_mp3 (.mp3)

Black Manager Strikes Back : 2023/04/BlackManagerStrikesBack_mp3 (.mp3)

(I didn't name those!!!!)

AlgoMusic 2.4 on Aminet (1998-08-20)
2.4+ Update

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Fri, 27 Jan 2023, 13:21
Pakz
techcrunch.com/2023/01/27/google-created-an-ai-that-can-generate-music-from-text-descriptions-but-wont-release-it/

Long link.

They wont release until they have solved copyright issues. When Napster was here. People were getting sued for 150.000 dollars per stolen song. That is a big fine.
1% of generated music now is directly copied from training data.

No idea when their 'new' version wil be out. Maybe others wil release a bigger and better system in the coming months.
Thu, 11 May 2023, 10:40
Jayenkai
You can sign up on the waitlist

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Thu, 11 May 2023, 12:03
Pakz
I just listened to a 'aiva' game music attempt. (Fireflower) It sounds unstructured.

I signed up for the waiting list. And to sometimes do a 5 minute survey.
Thu, 11 May 2023, 12:26
Jayenkai
Aaaaand.. He's in!!
A few choice selections

"Orchestral introduction for SoCoder.net"
: Download

"Oscar winning soundtrack for a strutting chicken"
socoder.net/uploads/1/2023/19/AI_Test_Kitchen_oscar_winning_soundtrack_for_a_strutting_chic.mp3

"8-bit Frisbee Championships"
socoder.net/uploads/1/2023/19/AI_Test_Kitchen_8bit_frisbee_championships.mp3

"1980s gameshow titles, Spin The Hairy Dustmite"
socoder.net/uploads/1/2023/19/AI_Test_Kitchen_1980s_gameshow_titles_spin_the_hairy_dustmit.mp3

"The whirling strangled drone of electric bagpipes in space"
socoder.net/uploads/1/2023/19/AI_Test_Kitchen_the_whirling_strangled_drone_of_electric_bagp.mp3

"Jingle : A Game A Week, Dot Com"
: Download

Note : Safari in particular doesn't like having too many Audio tags on a single page, so if you do include some mp3's, don't use the [mp3] tag too often.
Gawd, this feels like when I used to have to limit youtube tag usage.. But at least that wasn't hardcoded into the browser.
Wonder if I can fix that somehow..?

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Thu, 11 May 2023, 12:54
Jayenkai
Nursery Rhymes!

Happy frog hopping in the garden.

Baa Baa Baa, Sheep

The Kitten hunted a Mouse

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Fri, 02 Feb 2024, 03:25
Jayenkai
God damnit, Google, why'd you always have to region lock things?!

Anyhoo, Google's done a new version of MusicLM
MusicFX gives a much more polished result, IMO.
TechCrunch has a writeup about it, and it should be available in the Google Test Kitchen, if you can figure out how to access it.

> Reveal 🔎

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Mon, 05 Feb 2024, 05:48
Pakz
I got myself a subscription to Poe. Been using DALLE now. I hope they wil keep adding different generators to the app.(music please!)

The psychologists on the app are doing me good there recently. Letting me guide and reframe my thoughts with snippets of text, like programming.