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Posted : Monday, 28 May 2012, 11:19
HoboBen
lol. Linkage The BBC confuses Halo with the United Nations

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Posted : Monday, 28 May 2012, 11:19
daniel11111112
LOL XD
Posted : Monday, 28 May 2012, 12:11
Afr0


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Posted : Monday, 28 May 2012, 13:42
rockford
The quality of BBC research and broadcasting gets better and better :/

And we PAY for this shit
Posted : Monday, 28 May 2012, 15:23
JL235
The worrying thing is that the BBC is still pretty good when you compare it to ITV, Sky News, and plenty of news papers.

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Posted : Monday, 28 May 2012, 16:04
rockford
Unfortunately, you are indeed correct
Posted : Monday, 28 May 2012, 23:32
Afr0
The worrying thing is that the BBC is still pretty good when you compare it to ITV, Sky News, and plenty of news papers.


Government > Private

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Posted : Tuesday, 29 May 2012, 01:55
JL235
The BBC is not run by the government; it's mostly self governing and autonomous. It's power comes via royal charter, which allows to be mostly independent of government (like the bank of England). For example government ministers will work with the BBC, but do not run it, and remain outside. The UK government also cannot dictate what the BBC can or can't report on (although you can block a story through the courts). On top of that it also makes just under 1 billion a year in revenue through commercial ventures.

If you want examples of real state run news, radio and television corporations, take a look at any dictatorship.

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Posted : Tuesday, 29 May 2012, 03:03
Afr0
The UK government also cannot dictate what the BBC can or can't report on (although you can block a story through the courts).


What makes a tax-funded broadcaster superior to an independent one, is that the tax-funded one doesn't have to appeal to the public in order to stay afloat. They can send programs that only a minority of people will find interesting, and they can report on cases without worrying about demographics.

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Posted : Tuesday, 29 May 2012, 11:04
steve_ancell
Afr0, the way the BBC is paid for in the UK is through a rip-off anual license.

|edit| When I was a kid there was only 3 TV channels in the UK and yet they were far better quality IMO, now there's too many channels and not enough content so they have to fill up the extra channels with crap and repeats. |edit|
Posted : Tuesday, 29 May 2012, 11:21
HoboBen
I don't know if it's recent, but the BBC seem to have really dumbed down their language.

I was surprised also watching ITV the other day how right-wing (edit: probably pro-whoevers-in-power) the BBC's coverage had become in comparison (there was a recent anti-workfare protest in over 30 cities, with 8 arrests, that the BBC completely ignored - even on their website - despite having cameras out on the day). ITV do a much better job covering protests & strikes.

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Posted : Tuesday, 29 May 2012, 11:42
JL235
@Afr0; Actually the BBC specifically does have to appeal to the public, more so then other channels. This is because there is a small but very vocal section of the UK population who want to get rid of the license fee.

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Posted : Tuesday, 29 May 2012, 12:59
Afr0
Afr0, the way the BBC is paid for in the UK is through a rip-off anual license.


This is how it is done in Norway as well.

@Afr0; Actually the BBC specifically does have to appeal to the public, more so then other channels. This is because there is a small but very vocal section of the UK population who want to get rid of the license fee.


Here too, that doesn't change the programming though. I'm principally pro-taxfunded broadcasters.

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Posted : Thursday, 31 May 2012, 15:23
Afr0
That said, the potential problem with a public broadcaster is the need to always err on the side of pleasing the powers that be, in order to avoid being shut down.

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Posted : Monday, 04 June 2012, 23:15
Dabz
I was gutted when they scrapped Total Wipeout, the wankers.... Now I have to pay £145.50 a year just to watch Top Gear! Booooo

At least when Total Wipeout was on, I was managing to scrape some value.

Dabz

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Posted : Tuesday, 05 June 2012, 00:59
rockford
There isn't a single tv programme on BBC that I'd miss if they scrapped the channels and license fee.
Posted : Tuesday, 05 June 2012, 01:56
JL235
I never thought I'd hear the words 'value' and Total Wipeout in the same sentence. But Top Gear absolutely rocks!

I read that the license fee only applies to live broadcasts, so watching it non-live off the iPlayer and other services is entirely free. If that's true, then I could see myself living without a TV license in the future.

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Posted : Tuesday, 05 June 2012, 10:40
spinal
However, you need either to not have a TV, or use some other system incapable of receiving live BBC broadcast, which should be slightly easier now that analogue is being switched off. Surely someone can make a digibox that is incapable of receiving BBC?

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Posted : Tuesday, 05 June 2012, 13:13
JL235
The TV licence is for all live television in the UK, not just the BBC. Even with a digibox that excludes BBC channels, you still require a license.

There is also no problem with owning a TV. It really comes down to the fact that if you have a TV setup with a digibox, or an analogue aerial, and they find out, then it would be almost impossible to prove you haven't used it to watch live TV.

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Posted : Tuesday, 05 June 2012, 13:26
steve_ancell
JL235 The TV licence is for all live television in the UK, not just the BBC.


Not according to this, but then again it is wikipedia content so it may not be entirely accurate.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Television_licence#United_Kingdom

|edit| I am referring to the UK, I don't know who the license funds in other parts of the world. |edit|
Posted : Tuesday, 05 June 2012, 13:48
JL235
I don't quite see which bit disagrees with what I wrote, although I could be wrong. It does say at the beginning:

Wikipedia A television licence is required for each household where television programmes are watched as they are broadcast, irrespective of the signal method (terrestrial, satellite, cable or the Internet).




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Posted : Tuesday, 05 June 2012, 15:08
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Posted : Tuesday, 05 June 2012, 15:31
JL235
Even though the vast majority of the money goes to the BBC, a license is still required for all broadcasts in the UK.

A tiny percentage actually goes to other non-BBC services too. Wikipedia says Channel 4 received a tiny amount from it a few years ago, after they began getting into financial difficulties.

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Posted : Tuesday, 05 June 2012, 16:50
Hotshot
Total wipeout was good Laugh and now they have unplug it

The only good program on TV are

The Gadget Show
TOP Gear
Match of the Day

and maybe some flims that I havent see before

That about it!
Posted : Tuesday, 05 June 2012, 17:39
steve_ancell
JL235 A tiny percentage actually goes to other non-BBC services too. Wikipedia says Channel 4 received a tiny amount from it a few years ago, after they began getting into financial difficulties.

I think it was mentioned on the news about a year ago that some of it is also going towards improving broadband.
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